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fullflank 06-27-2013 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by spuzzyair (Post 1435706)
GoJet is losing their Delta flying due to absolutely horrendous performance. They were warned by Delta that they were not meeting their operational goals and that provisions in the contract allow for it to be terminated if said goals were not met. GoJet was given the opportunity to better their performance and failed.

So if their performance is so terrible then why on earth would AA jump at giving them flying?

PCLCREW 06-27-2013 01:51 PM



Originally Posted by spuzzyair (Post 1435706)
GoJet is losing their Delta flying due to absolutely horrendous performance. They were warned by Delta that they were not meeting their operational goals and that provisions in the contract allow for it to be terminated if said goals were not met. GoJet was given the opportunity to better their performance and failed.

So if their performance is so terrible then why on earth would AA jump at giving them flying?
Because their cheap and that's what Parker wants.

fullflank 06-27-2013 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1435712)
Because their cheap and that's what Parker wants.

Yes cheap is good I get it, but you have to get your passengers to their destination. If gojet cant do that, then Parker is selling a product that he cant deliver.

seafeye 06-27-2013 02:05 PM

It appears as eagle has a choice.
Having a slow death like comair or taking it up the arse like pinnacle.
Parker will get what he wants. He will throw in a $500 signing bonus to secure the deal.

babs 06-27-2013 02:39 PM

I vote slow death.

DryMotorBoatin 06-27-2013 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1435725)
Yes cheap is good I get it, but you have to get your passengers to their destination. If gojet cant do that, then Parker is selling a product that he cant deliver.

Lemme tell you a little story. Not too long ago I had an Eagle chief pilot in the jumpseat(very nice guy). We were chatting during a long on board delay about the horrendous state of the industry. Not just regionals but airlines in general. We were both talking about how absolutely horrendous the Chautauqua performance is on the American side. He said that AMR is doing the best it can to terminate that contract because the performance is so awful. So I posed the question...if AMR wants out of the contract because their performance is so terrible then why did they just give them a boatload of new E170's...his answer..."Because they were that much cheaper than everyone else.

fullflank 06-27-2013 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1435751)
Lemme tell you a little story. Not too long ago I had an Eagle chief pilot in the jumpseat(very nice guy). We were chatting during a long on board delay about the horrendous state of the industry. Not just regionals but airlines in general. We were both talking about how absolutely horrendous the Chautauqua performance is on the American side. He said that AMR is doing the best it can to terminate that contract because the performance is so awful. So I posed the question...if AMR wants out of the contract because their performance is so terrible then why did they just give them a boatload of new E170's...his answer..."Because they were that much cheaper than everyone else.

Horton made that deal for more than one purpose. I believe partially to devalue eagle? Correct me if im wrong on that one. Parker isnt Horton, he has an airline to run now and a product to sell. Cheap is still important to him, obviously, but performance will play a very big role going forward. If he does give flying to gojet and they dont deliver, he will get rid of them too. Lets just hope he stays away from them altogether.

PilotJ3 06-27-2013 06:34 PM



Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1435751)
Lemme tell you a little story. Not too long ago I had an Eagle chief pilot in the jumpseat(very nice guy). We were chatting during a long on board delay about the horrendous state of the industry. Not just regionals but airlines in general. We were both talking about how absolutely horrendous the Chautauqua performance is on the American side. He said that AMR is doing the best it can to terminate that contract because the performance is so awful. So I posed the question...if AMR wants out of the contract because their performance is so terrible then why did they just give them a boatload of new E170's...his answer..."Because they were that much cheaper than everyone else.

Horton made that deal for more than one purpose. I believe partially to devalue eagle? Correct me if im wrong on that one. Parker isnt Horton, he has an airline to run now and a product to sell. Cheap is still important to him, obviously, but performance will play a very big role going forward. If he does give flying to gojet and they dont deliver, he will get rid of them too. Lets just hope he stays away from them altogether.
Oh no!! Let him have it all. When explode in his face then it will be a different story...

spuzzyair 06-27-2013 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1435761)
Horton made that deal for more than one purpose. I believe partially to devalue eagle? Correct me if im wrong on that one. Parker isnt Horton, he has an airline to run now and a product to sell. Cheap is still important to him, obviously, but performance will play a very big role going forward. If he does give flying to gojet and they dont deliver, he will get rid of them too. Lets just hope he stays away from them altogether.

I find it highly unlikely that GoJet will get any AA flying. However, you may see Compass who is also owned by Trans States be awarded some E175 flying. There is a history between the two companies since Trans States Airlines used to fly under the banner American Connection.

What 06-28-2013 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by spuzzyair (Post 1435944)
I find it highly unlikely that GoJet will get any AA flying. However, you may see Compass who is also owned by Trans States be awarded some E175 flying. There is a history between the two companies since Trans States Airlines used to fly under the banner American Connection.

And Parker has a history with basically every regional. What is your point?


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