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New AA Regional Aircraft Order
9E is not competing for any flying except Delta flying. 9E will only fly for Delta as long as it is wholly owned by Delta. You see where I'm going with this? 9E has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
(Post 1439158)
9E is not competing for any flying except Delta flying. 9E will only fly for Delta as long as it is wholly owned by Delta. You see where I'm going with this? 9E has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
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Originally Posted by fullflank
(Post 1439161)
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
(Post 1439158)
9E is not competing for any flying except Delta flying. 9E will only fly for Delta as long as it is wholly owned by Delta. You see where I'm going with this? 9E has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
(Post 1439164)
I am aware. He can say he wants a contract like 9E, but he can't say they will lose flying to 9E if they don't take concessions. Unless its delta flying.
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
(Post 1439164)
I am aware. He can say he wants a contract like 9E, but he can't say they will lose flying to 9E if they don't take concessions. Unless its delta flying.
Not saying it will or will not happen. But if you look at the history of regionals over the last 20 years, the tendency is for mainlines to try and divest themselves of wholly owned regional operations. If you think Gumm and or Anderson are not capable of changing an agreement that would make Pinnacle...err..Endeavor more attractive to outside investors then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. 10 years from now it is likely Endeavor will either be sold off or parted off. Delta is unlikely to keep them on the books long term. This whole deal is just an eerie repeat of what NWA did with Express One in 1997. Bottom line this is about making as much money as possible. If Parker makes Gumm/Anderson an offer they will look at it. Be careful about making exclusionary statements or believing management when they issue them. In this business, it will make you look like a fool. |
Or PSA? In addition to considering RAH/Mesa/Skywest
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Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 1439146)
And you are well within your rights to just vote no, you don't want to have all these other pilots groups mad at you, do you?
It was your right to decide what you wanted to do. You made your decision. Man up and take the heat for it. |
Originally Posted by FlyingKat
(Post 1439181)
If you honestly believe Gumm won't take a look at a good deal offered by Parker, and take it back to his handlers at Delta, then you really don't understand this industry or how it operates.
Not saying it will or will not happen. But if you look at the history of regionals over the last 20 years, the tendency is for mainlines to try and divest themselves of wholly owned regional operations. If you think Gumm and or Anderson are not capable of changing an agreement that would make Pinnacle...err..Endeavor more attractive to outside investors then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. 10 years from now it is likely Endeavor will either be sold off or parted off. Delta is unlikely to keep them on the books long term. This whole deal is just an eerie repeat of what NWA did with Express One in 1997. Bottom line this is about making as much money as possible. If Parker makes Gumm/Anderson an offer they will look at it. Be careful about making exclusionary statements or believing management when they issue them. In this business, it will make you look like a fool. |
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
(Post 1439158)
9E is not competing for any flying except Delta flying. 9E will only fly for Delta as long as it is wholly owned by Delta. You see where I'm going with this? 9E has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
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Originally Posted by Saabs
(Post 1439196)
You trip. Gumm ain't bidding on flying from Parker.
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