Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 1439610)

All are good points. But don't rule out PSA getting some aircraft, if those new RJ's are 900's. All of our pilots are already typed on the aircraft, reducing training cost considerably for the pilots we will need to upgrade for the growth. Cost for hiring pilots off the street to replace the first officers that will be upgrading will remain the same. The training department is expanding. By September the downstairs in Dayton will be PSA's and it is set up to have large classes running at the same time. We could have upgrades, new hires, and flight attendant classes being conducted without the claustrophobic felling we have now. Yes we will need to have another sim for the 900 differences but it will probably be cheaper to send the pilots to Montreal for a 2 day sim session than it will be to buy one. Yes MZ did pass away but surprisingly KH is showing his face more and has made it clear that he knows PSA must grow with larger aircraft or we are all out of jobs. Last but not least PSA is cheap.

Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1439622)

You're right, psa needs to replace these 200's or we are out of a job. We are cheap its true. I think the corporation pays almost no tax being HQ in vendalia, and being a "job creator". Our mx hanger in Cak is essentially free. Investment is being made (expanding training center, cat II) but I just can't see Parker passing on a chance to whipsaw. If they are offered here, it will be for the deal that eagle is being offered now. In that event, I'd rather pass anyways.

Originally Posted by PeopleMover90 (Post 1439637)

While you say you'd rather pass, id rather be a part of a modernizing/expanding carrier and have a job then sit here and say NO NO NO! And watch PSA disappear or worse yet get merged with PDT that is a very senior company and see a bad QOL shift.... If offered 700/900s to replace the 200s and even add on a few airframes up to the point our pay doesn't go up (keeping us cheap) id be all for it. Sure, what's "deserved" and "proper" and only right for us is a different story.... If you're looking for correct compensation this is the wrong industry. We're way past the slave driver point. Screw it, might as well make it a secure slave driver job.

Originally Posted by PeopleMover90 (Post 1439637)

While you say you'd rather pass, id rather be a part of a modernizing/expanding carrier and have a job then sit here and say NO NO NO! And watch PSA disappear or worse yet get merged with PDT that is a very senior company and see a bad QOL shift.... If offered 700/900s to replace the 200s and even add on a few airframes up to the point our pay doesn't go up (keeping us cheap) id be all for it. Sure, what's "deserved" and "proper" and only right for us is a different story.... If you're looking for correct compensation this is the wrong industry. We're way past the slave driver point. Screw it, might as well make it a secure slave driver job.

Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1439638)

I really wish you didn't work here. You want security? RAH is hiring and offering bonuses, please go. It wouldn't be tough for you to start over, you've been here what? A year? You should go for it. Growing fleet and very secure.

Originally Posted by PeopleMover90 (Post 1439649)

I have friends at RAH and wouldn't touch their working conditions with a 10 foot pole. Sounds like you have 170 fever...

And while you wish I didn't work here, I do. Thanks for the comradery... I never insulted you. Just added a slightly positive spin to something.

Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1439646)

People like you who are wrecking this career. Bet you still live with mom and dad to.

Originally Posted by fullflank (Post 1439652)

I'm not insulting you either. I've been here six years and in contract negotiations for most of them. We finally have a contract and some new FO is telling me we need to accept paycuts to grow. As nicely as I can say this, RAH has growth and security you seek, at cost you are obviously okay with (pay, workrules). I just don't want you having a vote here when Parker brings the eagle deal to psa, nothing personal.

Originally Posted by PeopleMover90 (Post 1439649)

I have friends at RAH and wouldn't touch their working conditions with a 10 foot pole. Sounds like you have 170 fever...

And while you wish I didn't work here, I do. Thanks for the comradery... I never insulted you. Just added a slightly positive spin to something.