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Old 12-02-2006 | 09:09 AM
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Pinnacle just came to UND this past week and hired a 280TTer. Somehow i am thinking they are just a little short on pilots.........
Whoa... yea that sounds like a BIG shortage to me...
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Old 12-02-2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot

Three years USAF RB-57F Pilot. "Self portrait" taken with a 19MM wide angle Cannon Pellix Camera in 1969. Note how dark it is straight up in daytime.

Not so many years after the McKone and Olmstead era. (They were in an -H model, right?)

I joined the 38th SRS (and 55th SRW) when Col McKone was the 3902 Air Base Wing Commander at Offutt.


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Old 12-02-2006 | 10:57 AM
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That is amazing that they would hire a 280TTer. SCARY!! Pinnacle has turned away a lot of 1000+ hr CFI's. From what I've read their interview process is difficult. I can't believe someone with that low of time would have the knowledge level required to make it through the interview. I've read the gouges and don't know half of the answers. I've got a lot more time than 280TT. Heck, I have more multi than that.
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Old 12-02-2006 | 11:06 AM
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I agree, 280TT is maybe enough to find a flight instructing position. That probably includes 25-30 multi if I know the UND system correctly. Not much multi time to upgrade from a Warrior to, well, anything with 2 engines!
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Old 12-02-2006 | 11:12 AM
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PNCL interview is having a pulse. I bet the jets dont go to XJ or 9E.
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Old 12-02-2006 | 12:50 PM
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[quote=TonyC;87630]Not so many years after the McKone and Olmstead era. (They were in an -H model, right?)

Believe it was a RB-47H - not a high altitude aircraft. Read book "The Little Toy Dog" which is about their flight.

I joined the 38th SRS (and 55th SRW) when Col McKone was the 3902 Air Base Wing Commander at Offutt.

Belonged to 58th Weather Reconnasisance Squadron (misnomer - we never flew when there was weather)


Just out of curiosity, are you a member of the 55th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing Association, Inc.?

No - just attend a Ftroop dinner each December in Albuquerque.
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Old 12-02-2006 | 01:02 PM
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Not so many years after the McKone and Olmstead era. (They were in an -H model, right?)

Believe it was a RB-47H - not a high altitude aircraft. Read book "The Little Toy Dog" which is about their flight.

I joined the 38th SRS (and 55th SRW) when Col McKone was the 3902 Air Base Wing Commander at Offutt.

Belonged to 58th Weather Reconnasisance Squadron (misnomer - we never flew when there was weather)


Just out of curiosity, are you a member of the 55th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing Association, Inc.?

No - just attend a Ftroop dinner each December in Albuquerque.

Duh. Funny how I'd notice F versus H, but completely miss the 57 versus 47. Sorry 'bout that.








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Old 12-02-2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Zarphious
I agree, 280TT is maybe enough to find a flight instructing position. That probably includes 25-30 multi if I know the UND system correctly. Not much multi time to upgrade from a Warrior to, well, anything with 2 engines!
Not to start an argument but UND does run their kids through a CRJ specific ground school and basically half of a CRJ type rating (including profiles and emergencies) the only reason they do not recieve a type is that the sim is not full motion. I am not saying that this qualifies people with low times to be regional pilots but.... basically they have already have gone through the same ground school that pinnacle has. Therefore one would anticipate that a UND grad would be more likely to pass training than someone who has had zero CRJ experience.

Sidenote: JetU has finalized a contract with UND to put their students through ground school... apparently they find UND's standards for completion high enough to justify this move.

Again, this is not to insinuate that these low time pilots should be at pinnacle but they do have previous experience with the knowledge required to pass ground school and IOE.
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Old 12-02-2006 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by belliott
Not to start an argument but UND does run their kids through a CRJ specific ground school and basically half of a CRJ type rating (including profiles and emergencies) the only reason they do not recieve a type is that the sim is not full motion. I am not saying that this qualifies people with low times to be regional pilots but.... basically they have already have gone through the same ground school that pinnacle has. Therefore one would anticipate that a UND grad would be more likely to pass training than someone who has had zero CRJ experience.

Sidenote: JetU has finalized a contract with UND to put their students through ground school... apparently they find UND's standards for completion high enough to justify this move.

Again, this is not to insinuate that these low time pilots should be at pinnacle but they do have previous experience with the knowledge required to pass ground school and IOE.
For the record, I am a UND grad and I have taken the CRJ course there. I can honestly say that it helped, but it no amount of ground school can substitute for stick and rudder time! I know, I know there's also sim time involved with the course too. But I maintain that total time is where we refine our skills and gain the most experience... I seriously doubt that 20 hrs in the sim plus the rest of 280TT will provide that opportunity...
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Old 12-03-2006 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
over the past year, everyone in the NWA family has been through a lot, including the regionals (especially Mesaba). Now that they are coming out of bankruptcy and they have ordered 76 regional jets, I ask why they keep delaying the announcement of who is going to get them. I really thought the answer would come today with Mesaba getting the 36 CRJ 900's, but nothing was said. I know they already know who is getting the planes, so why not just announce it so people can plan their lives. Now that they haven't announced it, I feel like Pinnacle might still be in the running for them, and to be honest with you, I just want to keep our same fleet size and let Mesaba get planes back so that some of my friends who are layed off can get their jobs back. The perfect situation would be that mainline would do all of that flying for good rates, but we know that can't happen, so I just hope NWA announces the awards soon.

Be Safe everyone and Have a happy holiday.
Right! and all of the "regional" carriers would go belly up. That would be THE perfect situation. SOme of your friends at mesaba getting their jobs back?....hmmmm . don't you think that it would be more appropriate to get the jobs back of NWA pilots first(i.e. the REAL airline and the only reason mesaba exists)? CRJ 900's? I hope you guys are all gonna be happy stuck at the "regional" level, because the more 170's and 900's there are, the less 737's and A320's there are....get it?
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