Be careful what you wish for! your post is extremely contradictory

 

You guys are idiots. You have no clue just how much these 900's are hurting your career.

 

The CRJ ground school and sim course do definitely help when you head off to the regional airlines. I ended up flying the ERJ and I still found it helpful. And yes, the reason airlines will hire UND grads with such low time is because they have proven they can make it through an airline-style training program. ASA, Horizon, ACA and others do/have done the same thing for a long time. A proven track is why. I will second another poster by saying that I don't think 280 hours qualifies one to go blasting off in a jet with 50 paying passengers behind them. You may have the knowledge (anyone can learn an electrical system or how a pack works) and the stick and rudder skills but there is just NO WAY you can have the level of experience necessary to make the decisions you will come across flying in the 121 world. Just a lot of aeronautical immaturity there, I don't care how old you are. I started instructing at about 280-300 hours and there is a LOT of learning and growing up you will do as you build that PIC time, even if it is in a warrior or arrow or cessna.

Don't know much about the JetU program but UND has a long history of contract training with various entities. There have been long-term contracts where we were training pilots for China Airlines, ARAMCO, Cirrus and a few others as well as smaller contracts. The latest company that I know of who is sending applicants to UND for training is ANA in Japan. So UND doing outside contract training is nothing new.

 

Well if the career goals are fedex/ups/ or corporate how is that? If I can get turbine PIC faster how does that deter me from my career goals? How do you offset the "shortage" of pilots (this post discusses this) plus upcoming retirement? The regionals may not be the "majors" but the majors, cargo, and corporate operators will still need pilots.

 

I agree...but whose fault is that? The situation for regional pilots is what it is and wasn't made by the pilots at that level. It was made by people like you who didn't/couldn't stand (not that I blame you or pretend to know all the ends and outs of the situation). You are being unreasonable and making not well thought out statements when you blame regional pilots for major pilots' concessions. The situation does suck as I believe you're right...major growth will suffer and wages will be held down...the situation, however, was created when you (the mainline pilot) gave up your scope. Don't blame the regionals for the state you created.

 

Thanks for your patronisation. The situation was not created by the pilots who fly the RJs. It was created each and every time a mainline contract was either thrown out or the pilots at the mainline conceded the scopes.

Don't blame us.

I would also rather see these airplanes at a mainline so I can get a mainline seniority number. But the way the business is these days was not created by the RJ pilots.

You don't want us to fly these? Then demand them for the mainline. But if the mainline gives them up who is supposed to fly them?

 

Well said.. I concur!

 

That's one of the best pictures I"ve seen.

 

Sorry if it's a little off topic (NWA); I have a vested interest. Son is a CRJ FO.


See http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/spe...tin/wb-57f.htm for more RB-57F photos.

 

Woerth signed off on it and it went into effect 12-1. We're living under the new rules now. Last Avro is down and some bonus flying remains to ferry them to Europe. Mesaba is now a 49 Saab operation. Nothing official or unofficial about any other flying. Seems to be par for the course when it comes to NWA announcements. We still don't even know for 100% certainty the Saabs are ours to keep. Securing that "core" business is still a management objective on their latest talking points.