Two regional offers, Which one?
07-20-2013 | 11:17 AM
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I know that upgrades at Trans states is about 6 years right now. Gojet was hiring street capts until recently, thus its more plausible to have one year upgrades there. Gojet is owned by Trans states (if you didnt know that) and ive heard of them doing this before. If you choose Trans states just make sure you know what airplane youre getting before class. If its a crj, youre at gojet. If its erj, 6 year upgrade. Id skip it all and take skywest.
BTW, I've not heard much out of the guy who was flapping his jaws about how Trans States would be shutting down about this time????
And nobody EVER tells the sources of their RELIABLE information. APC could be such a great place to help with your career if they'd make you have to use your real name instead of allowing you to be an anonymous blow hard.
07-20-2013 | 11:33 AM
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Where did you get this FACT from? Six years? Really? This is the kind of info that you guys pick out of the air...kinda like butterflies.
BTW, I've not heard much out of the guy who was flapping his jaws about how Trans States would be shutting down about this time????
And nobody EVER tells the sources of their RELIABLE information. APC could be such a great place to help with your career if they'd make you have to use your real name instead of allowing you to be an anonymous blow hard.
BTW, I've not heard much out of the guy who was flapping his jaws about how Trans States would be shutting down about this time????
And nobody EVER tells the sources of their RELIABLE information. APC could be such a great place to help with your career if they'd make you have to use your real name instead of allowing you to be an anonymous blow hard.
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07-20-2013 | 11:38 AM
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With all the new regs coming, quick anything is a relic. It's a no brainer dude, goto SkyWest. You have a million bases to choose from, get treated waaaay better, and most likely upgrade sooner than you think. The reason I say this is Legacy Carriers are about to hire A LOT. Most will come from the Regionals. The bigger the Regional, the more pilots they will see move on (speaking strictly from a numbers point of view). If you have kids and a fam then yes, stay where you can live in base. If not, goto SkyWest. Good luck to you.
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07-20-2013 | 12:22 PM
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With all the new regs coming, quick anything is a relic. It's a no brainer dude, goto SkyWest. You have a million bases to choose from, get treated waaaay better, and most likely upgrade sooner than you think. The reason I say this is Legacy Carriers are about to hire A LOT. Most will come from the Regionals. The bigger the Regional, the more pilots they will see move on (speaking strictly from a numbers point of view). If you have kids and a fam then yes, stay where you can live in base. If not, goto SkyWest. Good luck to you.
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If you assume a fixed amount of people will leave a regional in the next 12 months, you have to assume that an equal amount of qualified applicants will be split evenly amongst each regional. If the legacy carriers hire 300 people in 2014, it isn't going to matter that Expressjet has 10x as many people as a place like Trans States. If you are qualified (with the exception of preferential interviews and flow throughs), you will be considered. In this case, the larger percentage of pilots leaving will be from a smaller operation.
If you go to a place like Expressjet, 2000 people have to retire or leave before you can even considered a left seat. At Trans States or Compass, it's 200.
07-20-2013 | 01:07 PM
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I have to disagree with your math.
If you assume a fixed amount of people will leave a regional in the next 12 months, you have to assume that an equal amount of qualified applicants will be split evenly amongst each regional. If the legacy carriers hire 300 people in 2014, it isn't going to matter that Expressjet has 10x as many people as a place like Trans States. If you are qualified (with the exception of preferential interviews and flow throughs), you will be considered. In this case, the larger percentage of pilots leaving will be from a smaller operation.
If you go to a place like Expressjet, 2000 people have to retire or leave before you can even considered a left seat. At Trans States or Compass, it's 200.
If you assume a fixed amount of people will leave a regional in the next 12 months, you have to assume that an equal amount of qualified applicants will be split evenly amongst each regional. If the legacy carriers hire 300 people in 2014, it isn't going to matter that Expressjet has 10x as many people as a place like Trans States. If you are qualified (with the exception of preferential interviews and flow throughs), you will be considered. In this case, the larger percentage of pilots leaving will be from a smaller operation.
If you go to a place like Expressjet, 2000 people have to retire or leave before you can even considered a left seat. At Trans States or Compass, it's 200.
07-20-2013 | 01:14 PM
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I have to disagree with your math.
If you assume a fixed amount of people will leave a regional in the next 12 months, you have to assume that an equal amount of qualified applicants will be split evenly amongst each regional. If the legacy carriers hire 300 people in 2014, it isn't going to matter that Expressjet has 10x as many people as a place like Trans States. If you are qualified (with the exception of preferential interviews and flow throughs), you will be considered. In this case, the larger percentage of pilots leaving will be from a smaller operation.
If you go to a place like Expressjet, 2000 people have to retire or leave before you can even considered a left seat. At Trans States or Compass, it's 200.
If you assume a fixed amount of people will leave a regional in the next 12 months, you have to assume that an equal amount of qualified applicants will be split evenly amongst each regional. If the legacy carriers hire 300 people in 2014, it isn't going to matter that Expressjet has 10x as many people as a place like Trans States. If you are qualified (with the exception of preferential interviews and flow throughs), you will be considered. In this case, the larger percentage of pilots leaving will be from a smaller operation.
If you go to a place like Expressjet, 2000 people have to retire or leave before you can even considered a left seat. At Trans States or Compass, it's 200.
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07-20-2013 | 01:37 PM
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PIC time always matters. Lets say you do get on with a major without PIC time. Then 2 years later, an economic downturn hits or your airline goes bankrupt and now you are furloughed on the street. Not very marketable without any TPIC time.
That being said I'm sure 99% of people would jump ship at a regional to a major without having PIC time. But it could come back to haunt them. Just a thought.
That being said I'm sure 99% of people would jump ship at a regional to a major without having PIC time. But it could come back to haunt them. Just a thought.
07-20-2013 | 01:54 PM
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They are upgrading 07 hires AND not far from being done with those. Hiring was S L O W for a few years, so not many 08 hires (if any). Not much hiring again until 12 (a few 09). There's a sizable gap from 07 to 12 and it wouldn't take much movement to be upgrading the 12's in a lot less than 6 years. There are guys hired in 12 who have the time to upgrade now so they probably won't even be around long enough to have to worry about it.
07-20-2013 | 01:59 PM
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PIC time always matters. Lets say you do get on with a major without PIC time. Then 2 years later, an economic downturn hits or your airline goes bankrupt and now you are furloughed on the street. Not very marketable without any TPIC time.
That being said I'm sure 99% of people would jump ship at a regional to a major without having PIC time. But it could come back to haunt them. Just a thought.
That being said I'm sure 99% of people would jump ship at a regional to a major without having PIC time. But it could come back to haunt them. Just a thought.
07-20-2013 | 02:04 PM
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Keep telling yourself that. When push comes to shove, unless you have tight connections, the guy standing next to you with PIC time when you dont have will get hired first
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