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WBTYM 07-30-2013 07:11 AM

"5. As RAH moves into ORD they will take over the flying the CRJ is currently doing while the ERJs are moved out and the CRJ replaces most of the flying."

So you are saying CRJ will stay in ORD replacing EMBs as 175s replace CRJs?

RJ Pilot 07-30-2013 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by WBTYM (Post 1454074)
"5. As RAH moves into ORD they will take over the flying the CRJ is currently doing while the ERJs are moved out and the CRJ replaces most of the flying."

So you are saying CRJ will stay in ORD replacing EMBs as 175s replace CRJs?

ORD will shrink substantially on the L-Eagle side. No definite plans yet for the remaining C7 in ORD. So yes, your assumption might be right .

WBTYM 07-30-2013 07:18 AM

And what is to become of the RAH 140s in ORD? Isn't the contract up in 2014, and RAH needs the pilots to staff larger equipment, no? I don't see how we will cover all the smaller cities/slots ORD will require, and nobody out there has a couple thousand pilots to spare.

RJ Pilot 07-30-2013 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by WBTYM (Post 1454083)
And what is to become of the RAH 140s in ORD? Isn't the contract up in 2014, and RAH needs the pilots to staff larger equipment, no? I don't see how we will cover all the smaller cities/slots ORD will require, and nobody out there has a couple thousand pilots to spare.

Easy, by reducing frequency. The best thing happening right now is AA getting those Airbus killing the need of Regionals. Its even happening now in DFW.

The Chow 07-30-2013 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by WBTYM (Post 1454083)
And what is to become of the RAH 140s in ORD? Isn't the contract up in 2014, and RAH needs the pilots to staff larger equipment, no? I don't see how we will cover all the smaller cities/slots ORD will require, and nobody out there has a couple thousand pilots to spare.

What I'm not understanding is why United has jerked RAH's chain hard for trying to staff the E170/5 while they have Q400's sitting idle.

What 07-30-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by The Chow (Post 1454089)
What I'm not understanding is why United has jerked RAH's chain hard for trying to staff the E170/5 while they have Q400's sitting idle.

Give it some time, RAH could be in a lot of trouble once SKW gets their pilots to help the company and the Ejet program up and running.

What 07-30-2013 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1454086)
Easy, by reducing frequency. The best thing happening right now is AA getting those Airbus killing the need of Regionals. Its even happening now in DFW.

The 319 is not replacing regionals per say. The airplane is replacing the MD80. The 319 will have 6 seats less than current MD80s.

All regionals will shrink as the mainlines bring more flying in house. This will happen over the next 2 years. This will mitigate the dry pool of applicants, the parking of smaller Rj and introduction of larger RJs as you mentioned reduction in frequency as the competition is reduced in many markers.

RJ Pilot 07-30-2013 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1454093)
The 319 is not replacing regionals per say. The airplane is replacing the MD80. The 319 will have 6 seats less than current MD80s.

Same thing. The 80 is already taking routes away from RJ's in DFW.
Thats a good thing!

What 07-30-2013 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1454069)
How old is that? Seems that was a snap shot from 2012.

What you have after 2017?

Management to this day continues to say that their plan is to re fleet the wholly owned. They keep holding stuff hostage while they continue asking for cuts. But if you look at what they are saying, what the court fillings has and how they negotiated out contract. They are looking to re fleet the airline, they already have substantial cost saving that will put Eagle below industry average as far as pilots cost in 2 1/2 years, right after SKW and EXJ take their rate adjustments. All they are trying to do is get more from the pilots and pilots have demonstrated that they will give it up. A b scale is not going to deter them from doing what they have planed and freezing the guys that don't flow is not going to hurt them either as the top guys are already maxed out and the ones that aren't and choose to stay will be index before long. They are trying to whipsaw PSA against Eagle before the merger is finalized of LCC and AMR and what i believe to be the soon merger of both airlines.

ERJF15 07-30-2013 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1454096)
Same thing. The 80 is already taking routes away from RJ's in DFW.
Thats a good thing!

Irony....RJ's took 80 routes now those routes are going back.


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