Show what to a judge? They don't have to pay bonuses, set up incentives programs like they are. The only other airline doing anything remotely close is RAH where they give you 5K and a guarantee interview if you go to ATP Eagle is hiring you, putting you on payroll, giving you flight benefits as well as healthcare and a "guarantee job" at mainline. I think they are trying to do more than just impress a judge.


***They will change from a guarantee interview to a guarantee job. It's already being proposed and most on property already have something similar, and yes I know that so far it hasn't really worked as advertised.

That's a long period of indentured servitude right there. Good show, AA. Just wait until they start underwriting loans...lawd have mercy.

It goes to tell you that they aren't worried so much about company longevity as they are having a supply of qualified candidates over their competitors. If you look around most airlines are setting up programs, currently AE/AA is ahead of the pack but I am certain that most will catch up very soon.

I talked to a Delta rep at a career expo that was targeted to flight students. She said that Delta is not concerned about attracting to people to Delta but if it came down to it, underwriting loans was on the table...

I cringed a little.

Absolutely, they are not worried about getting folks to Delta. The issue will be getting folks to their regionals, specially the ones with very bad contracts, Pinnacle. If they weren't concerned they wouldn't be considering loans. They will want a certain service time at the regional and for them to compete with what AA or United might offer they must offer more than just an interview.

The regionals won't have the capital or resources to fund new hire loans, specially since they will want them on property earning money asap and this will require a 4 year degree. Mainlines will have to step up and they will want some type of ROI specially since these loans will approach the cost of a mortgage and these guys won't be able to make more than minimum payments for a considerable amount of time. The mainlines like fast ROI as airline management focuses mainly on what is happening today and tomorrow rather than the future. They often don't last long enough, sort of like sport coaches. Investors care for what have you done for me lately, everyone knows airlines aren't long term investments.

Check out the latest court filings. Namely the objections by USAPA. Looks like management REALLY doesn't have a plane for Eagle. They really are just winging it. Or it's not a good future. I can't imagine managements plan being so great that they forgot to mention it in the court documents.

yeah, but the pilot shortage will work for our advantage!

Is not that that they don't have a plan, is that they filled a motion for the court to keep it sealed. Could it be because it's bad? Well they are threatening with worse case scenario. Or could it be because it hold the information on where they plan to place aircraft and where. People are naive to think that all of this isn't figured out already. AE makes up about 20% of AMR. This is why ToHo did the deal with RAH, to try an devalue Eagle and trow a wrench on the merger. The plan is sealed up and USAPA is asking for it to be made public, giving them more knowledge and possible leverage during the joint CBA negotiations. The SCOPE from the MOU is bad and well above the restrictions set by United and Delta. If USAPA is able to obtain a better idea on what management is planing to do with the regional side of the house they will be able to negotiate more efficiently.

The leverage management has over us is the fear of the unknown, if we are able to negotiate in a better position. If we are able to not grow the gap between major and regional wages the more leverage mainline pilots have and the less desire management will have to outsource. Yes they will always want that control, but they also like profits and the more they save the more they put in their pockets.

Fixed it for you!

A real pilot shortage may just ending up being us working more and having less days off.