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Originally Posted by Herb Flemmming
(Post 1453427)
Thousands of Bros in flight school right now that are dreaming of E170's and crisp uniforms that they will spend a year paying off.
http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif They need to know that the E170 is just the scent that attracts the prey to the glue trap. That and a pre tax $5,000 bribe! |
Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 1452930)
Hope you guys keep the movement going.
One thing management doesn't want are united pilot groups. Ditching ALPA Teamsters or whatever and forming your own just for Regionals, with one list and one contract is long overdue. Why are after all these years of ALPA representation are regional pilots still on poverty wages? Why does an experienced pilot have to start again on year one pay at the bottom of the seniority list at another APLA carrier, after his original ALPA carrier furloughed? Why does ALPA endorse cuts and concessions whenever Delta comes with its cap in hand? WHY THE HELL DO WE KEEP GIVING 2% OF OUR ALREADY PATHETIC PAYCHECKS TO THESE PEOPLE? Its time to rethink representation. No more conflict of interest. No more caving to intimidation from the legacies. No more partying on our dime, and no more using that B.S. propaganda ALPA magazine to light my BBQ! |
Originally Posted by Ultralight
(Post 1476879)
I know there are plenty of die hard ALPA flag wavers on here, but ask yourself these questions.
Why are after all these years of ALPA representation are regional pilots still on poverty wages? Why does an experienced pilot have to start again on year one pay at the bottom of the seniority list at another APLA carrier, after his original ALPA carrier furloughed? Why does ALPA endorse cuts and concessions whenever Delta comes with its cap in hand? WHY THE HELL DO WE KEEP GIVING 2% OF OUR ALREADY PATHETIC PAYCHECKS TO THESE PEOPLE? Its time to rethink representation. No more conflict of interest. No more caving to intimidation from the legacies. No more partying on our dime, and no more using that B.S. propaganda ALPA magazine to light my BBQ! I'd gladly forgo the magazine and occasional free lunch if they would reduce my dues by $50/year. You won't find a lanyard or sticker anywhere near me. I hope when push comes to shove, they at least use name-brand lube on my BH. I feel that my dues should allow for that at the minimum. |
Originally Posted by exdashtrash
(Post 1476987)
As someone eluded to earlier...think of the stickers! ALPA fights for the working man- the stickers prove it!
I'd gladly forgo the magazine and occasional free lunch if they would reduce my dues by $50/year. You won't find a lanyard or sticker anywhere near me. I hope when push comes to shove, they at least use name-brand lube on my BH. I feel that my dues should allow for that at the minimum. They need to know this is not the time to lower the bar in this industry. We are not interns. |
What happens with no merger? New contract sticks, PSA?
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Originally Posted by StopTheWhipsaw
(Post 1477421)
The TA bullet points are posted at www.stopthewhipsaw.com
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Here's the thing..."Whipsaw" is nothing more than "competition". Until you solve the problem of "competing" within a brand, all the stickers in the world won't change reality.
The only way to change this is with "brand scope" negotiated at the mainline level...Which isn't likely to happen because that would require them to use negotiating capital for other pilots. In addition, the mainline pilots actually get negotiating "credit" at the table for helping to lower the cost of regional feed...Dirty little ALPA secret that they don't want you to know. ASA and CMR pilots fought this battle with the PID and then RJDC over a decade ago.....and lost. |
Originally Posted by Crawl
(Post 1477546)
1% yearly pay increases until 2023?! 10 years?! Looks like someone's trying to lock it in before the pilot shortage hits them in the face.
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Stop the Whipsaw!
Unless the PSA pilots vote this down, the race to the bottom will continue
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1477574)
Here's the thing..."Whipsaw" is nothing more than "competition". Until you solve the problem of "competing" within a brand, all the stickers in the world won't change reality.
The only way to change this is with "brand scope" negotiated at the mainline level...Which isn't likely to happen because that would require them to use negotiating capital for other pilots. In addition, the mainline pilots actually get negotiating "credit" at the table for helping to lower the cost of regional feed...Dirty little ALPA secret that they don't want you to know. ASA and CMR pilots fought this battle with the PID and then RJDC over a decade ago.....and lost. |
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