palgia841

Just a few quick questions for all you XJT guys...

1. What kind of jumpseat/ID90/ZED agreement do you guys have on CAL's INTERNATIONAL flight? I know you guys can jumpseat/sit in the back for free on all domestic, but what about international? (btw, is "international" broken down in Americas and rest-of-the-world or are all international destinations considered equal in terms of jumpseat/non-rev?)

2. What kind of pass (ID/ZED) agreements do you have with other carriers (both US carriers operating domestically and internationally, and foreign carriers)?

3. What travel benefits are available for immediate family (spouse/parents)? On which airlines? domestic/intl?

4. What has been the average length of reserve for new hires (last 6 mo)?

I know, I know.... lots of questions....but I appreciate you help!



PS. APC is a great website, with some good info. However there is no mention about travel benefits other than CASS/non-CASS. I was just wondering if I am the only person who would see value in adding a section on employee/family travel benefits, since I'm sure that DOES come into the equation for some guys (especially when choosing between airline/cargo/fractonals/ect). Just a thought.

U-I pilot

1) I must preface by saying I havent done international but from what I hear CAL international isnt much different. Going out its still free jumpseat. Coming back to the US you pay taxes which range depending on where you are coming from. If you want to Non-rev (space available) you pay a fee based on destination and class you list for, but thats the same as domestic (just more expensive).

2) I dont have much info on other carriers international as I havent done it. Domestic....take your pick.

3) Immediate family (spouse, parents, a travel companion, kids etc) can list space available same as pilots on all CAL flights. Dont personally know and havent tried other carriers...

4) New hire reserve depends on base. CLE would be well over a year (maybe 2). I was hired in June and would have held a December relief line in EWR but not in IAH. That is only due to holidays... Likely 6-8 months to hold other than reserve in either EWR or IAH.

Hope this semi-helps...

palgia841

Thanks for the info!

Now here's a question for everyone: What is the difference between jumpseating and non-revving? I mean, I know the difference since I've done both in the past, but i don't really understand why anyone would purchase a non-rev pass (and pay for it) if you could ride for free through CASS....
I'm obviously missing something here. My understanding of CASS is you show up at the gate, they check your credentials through CASS, and they give u either an economy seat (if available) or the cockpit jumpseat (if available). The other option is if you buy a non-rev pass, you pay for it, get listed on the flight, check-in like all other pax, and then wait to see if there are any economy seats available. If there aren't, you might get the jumpseat if you're in CASS.

What did I miss? The only advantage of buying a non-rev is that you'd have priority over other jumpseaters on that flight. Why would you pay if you can have the same thing free?



I'm just waiting for someone to illuminate me.

U-I pilot

You arent missing anything. Thats exactly it...Priority. If you want to get on the flight, sometimes it IS necessary to be non-rev not jumpseat. You can also book a non-rev and jumpseat and if you don't use the non-rev then it doesnt get charged.

If you are a commuter this could be all the difference of showing to work or getting left behind. There are sometimes lots of jumpseaters more senior to you and thats a way to get on before them.....

Velocipede

CASS participants go AFTER all classes of non-revs.

palgia841

Got it! I guess it makes sense then to buy the non-rev just in case!

freezingflyboy

Not sure how it works at other carriers but at CAL you don't get charged for the segment unless you use it. So if you list as a non-rev and end up on the jumpseat you won't get charged for the segment. Usually when I travel I list and then when I get to the gate I talk to the agents and they switch it to a jumpseat if there is going to be room in the cabin so I don't get charged, even if I am traveling with someone else who doesn't have jumpseat privileges (the girlfriend). Those that commute and deal with this more often probably have more experience with it but that seems to be how it works.

BROKE CFI

I have an interview with ExpressJet tomorrow!!!!!!!!!! Wish me luck

KZ1000Shaft

Just out of curiosity, how much is XJT charging for non-rev? For example, how much would an IAH-MCO end up costing it's employees.

The reason I ask is Eagle with less than 5 years at the company charges for a seat in the back (not on the jumpseat). DFW-MCO is about $10.

Booker

$12.50 per segment for a personal pass (i.e., coach), so IAH-MCO would be $12.50 one-way.