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Old 09-12-2013 | 03:26 PM
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It was a serious question. I don't know why, but when I was updating my stuff today I basically over thought the question from my original rational understanding. I need to make sure my app is perfect when DL pulls my SSP number, especially since I turned down Spirit!
just curious, what is your original rational understanding of what a/c needs a type rating?
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Old 09-12-2013 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by One Up
It was a serious question. I don't know why, but when I was updating my stuff today I basically over thought the question from my original rational understanding. I need to make sure my app is perfect when DL pulls my SSP number, especially since I turned down Spirit!
You turned down Spirit for a "possible" shot at Delta?

Oi Yoi Yoi, I don't even know what to say anymore. I guess Good Luck, you're gonna need it.
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Old 09-12-2013 | 04:41 PM
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Look up the definition for 'type rating' in the FAR's. SIC type rating is a type rating.
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Old 09-12-2013 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by thump
Not so black and white. At the last second, they gave an extension to the type requirement to Jan 1, 2016 for compliance:


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This is the stuff I am talking about. If an SIC is a full type rating, then why would such language be necessary from the FAA stating how all SIC's must be "type rated" by said date? The only reason I push this is due to having this same discussion with guys that got hired at United. They both said since I am only SIC that I should NOT check yes to the type rated section. I would be MORE then happy to be proven wrong here. I just do not want to have that uneasy feeling if I do get an interview to have them say... "says you are typed in your current plane, but we only see SIC on your certificate. I imagine I am making it more of an issue than it should be. Just interesting to see both sides of the argument.
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Old 09-12-2013 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
This is the stuff I am talking about. If an SIC is a full type rating, then why would such language be necessary from the FAA stating how all SIC's must be "type rated" by said date? The only reason I push this is due to having this same discussion with guys that got hired at United. They both said since I am only SIC that I should NOT check yes to the type rated section. I would be MORE then happy to be proven wrong here. I just do not want to have that uneasy feeling if I do get an interview to have them say... "says you are typed in your current plane, but we only see SIC on your certificate. I imagine I am making it more of an issue than it should be. Just interesting to see both sides of the argument.
What you're hearing from the guys that were hired at United may or may not jive with the things you hear from guys hired at Delta, American, Airways, Republic, Skywest, etc.

The regs are the regs. Look at the back of your certificate, look at what the FAA says, and make up your own mind.
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Old 09-12-2013 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
Originally Posted by thump
Not so black and white. At the last second, they gave an extension to the type requirement to Jan 1, 2016 for compliance:


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This is the stuff I am talking about. If an SIC is a full type rating, then why would such language be necessary from the FAA stating how all SIC's must be "type rated" by said date? The only reason I push this is due to having this same discussion with guys that got hired at United. They both said since I am only SIC that I should NOT check yes to the type rated section. I would be MORE then happy to be proven wrong here. I just do not want to have that uneasy feeling if I do get an interview to have them say... "says you are typed in your current plane, but we only see SIC on your certificate. I imagine I am making it more of an issue than it should be. Just interesting to see both sides of the argument.
I found this in the definitions section of the FAR's.

Rating:

'Rating means a statement that, as a part of a certificate, sets forth special conditions, privileges, or limitations.'
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Old 09-12-2013 | 09:14 PM
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Easy way to answer the question...

1. Does the back of your cert show the type under the RATINGS section?

2. Could you sit in the seat without going through the training specific to that type of airplane?

If you've answered "yes" to either, you've got a type rating. The SIC bit is just a limitation of that type rating, exactly like the VMC circling limitation that half the CA's at my airline have.
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Old 09-13-2013 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by One Up
It was a serious question. I don't know why, but when I was updating my stuff today I basically over thought the question from my original rational understanding. I need to make sure my app is perfect when DL pulls my SSP number, especially since I turned down Spirit!
When Delta pulls your SSP? You need to be in the left seat for that to happen right? So if that's the case, your obviously typed, so why all this type rating discussion?
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Old 09-13-2013 | 08:37 AM
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Very interesting pieces of information shown to support both sides of the argument. I still feel its a gray area of interpreting what is exactly meant by type rating. However I believe that when it comes to applications and marking yes to being type rated with SIC limitations, if the interviewer raises that question I think it could easily be discussed unlike a bold face lie. Thanks for the input guys.
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