How About A Summary of The NewPSA CBA Please?
#11
If the majors didn't want us to make regionals a career then they should stop sending main line size airplanes our way.
But now they got their "C" scale….
It's **** poor management that looks to rip labors income for profits.
But now they got their "C" scale….
It's **** poor management that looks to rip labors income for profits.
#12
I'm not at PSA so please enlighten us.
1) The quoted article says that PSA did not lower pay but simply cap it at 12/4 years respectively. If regional airlines are supposed to be a step in a career and not a career in itself (not reality in the last 8 years, I know but everyone's hopes) why is this bad?
2) What exactly are the reasons why people are so angry?
1) The quoted article says that PSA did not lower pay but simply cap it at 12/4 years respectively. If regional airlines are supposed to be a step in a career and not a career in itself (not reality in the last 8 years, I know but everyone's hopes) why is this bad?
2) What exactly are the reasons why people are so angry?
#13
It seems as though all the young FO's ask, "why is the old geezer still flying MY regional jet?" It's like they think all you have to do is apply to a major/cargo and you're hired. In the meantime you might not have any movement at your regional and you are stuck at $42 until you can upgrade because you maxed out at 4 years. Do you really believe that's all a pilot who is responsible for all those lives is worth??? Just because it's a regional doesn't make those lives any less significant, you still have to be able to fly a jet. Your pay stagnates and yet inflation just keeps on truckin'. If something happens to the captain (United pilot has a heart attack) and suddenly YOU become the only person who can bring that plane down safely and you want to know why we're upset about caps on already low pay??? And I believe the B scale pay for new hires IS a pay cut, course I could be wrong but don't think I am.
Are you seriously asking this? You obviously are not a professional pilot or your daddy is paying all your bills.
Are you seriously asking this? You obviously are not a professional pilot or your daddy is paying all your bills.
Or, like Bendover Air, you've been a captain for a couple years finally and now find yourself getting downgraded where 9 years at the company will now net you $30000/yr max with very little chance of ever getting back in the captain seat.
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It seems as though all the young FO's ask, "why is the old geezer still flying MY regional jet?" It's like they think all you have to do is apply to a major/cargo and you're hired. In the meantime you might not have any movement at your regional and you are stuck at $42 until you can upgrade because you maxed out at 4 years. Do you really believe that's all a pilot who is responsible for all those lives is worth??? Just because it's a regional doesn't make those lives any less significant, you still have to be able to fly a jet. Your pay stagnates and yet inflation just keeps on truckin'. If something happens to the captain (United pilot has a heart attack) and suddenly YOU become the only person who can bring that plane down safely and you want to know why we're upset about caps on already low pay??? And I believe the B scale pay for new hires IS a pay cut, course I could be wrong but don't think I am.
Are you seriously asking this? You obviously are not a professional pilot or your daddy is paying all your bills.
Are you seriously asking this? You obviously are not a professional pilot or your daddy is paying all your bills.
Amen brother, well said!
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From: DHC-8 FO
Basically if you a 13-17 year CA at PSA you have to apply at mainline or take your current salary for life.
They then make u interview and if you turn the interview down no more raises. If you interview and don't get it they will then tell u why u didn't and then cap your longevity raises.
The jobs are not guaranteed at mainline they only need to hire 25% of their new hires per year from PSA.
They then make u interview and if you turn the interview down no more raises. If you interview and don't get it they will then tell u why u didn't and then cap your longevity raises.
The jobs are not guaranteed at mainline they only need to hire 25% of their new hires per year from PSA.
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It seems as though all the young FO's ask, "why is the old geezer still flying MY regional jet?" It's like they think all you have to do is apply to a major/cargo and you're hired. In the meantime you might not have any movement at your regional and you are stuck at $42 until you can upgrade because you maxed out at 4 years. Do you really believe that's all a pilot who is responsible for all those lives is worth??? Just because it's a regional doesn't make those lives any less significant, you still have to be able to fly a jet. Your pay stagnates and yet inflation just keeps on truckin'. If something happens to the captain (United pilot has a heart attack) and suddenly YOU become the only person who can bring that plane down safely and you want to know why we're upset about caps on already low pay??? And I believe the B scale pay for new hires IS a pay cut, course I could be wrong but don't think I am.
Are you seriously asking this? You obviously are not a professional pilot or your daddy is paying all your bills.
Are you seriously asking this? You obviously are not a professional pilot or your daddy is paying all your bills.
Now, from what a read on the website, there is no B-scale. The scale remains intact until the first large RJ arrives on property and only then a cap is put in place. I'm not trying to defend it. I personally wouldn't have voted yes as I know regional pilots get paid less than they should but I can understand why they did. A little job security goes a long way in this business and it appears they feel they got some with the agreement.
I'm just trying to get hard facts and less emotional me, me, me hate that has been spewed. It seems from the intent of the CBA that PSA is trying to prevent an Eagle situation by forcing people out of a career RJ position and into the mainline. If you choose not to go, your pay is frozen.
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From: B756 FO
One has to wonder how bad life at Frontier and or home must be to have to lurk in the Regional Pilot forums and try to bad mouth Republic Pilots at any chance possible. I actually kind of feel bad for you. Hopefully life brings you some sort of joy.
#20
Do you ever stop complaining? You upgraded after 2 years at Mesaba. What do you have to cry about?
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