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IBPilot 09-29-2013 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1493008)
What airline denied them?


50/50 chance slats or the person she heard it from is "exaggerating" for dramatic effect. Probably got denied for w/b and the CA thought he'd be a tough guy and tell everyone he denied him for being PSA. Big talkers are known to do that. (not you necessarily slat, just in general)

FixTheMess 09-29-2013 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1493000)
What a joke.

50/50 shot that guy wasn't a yes voter.

What's your point? I have all the empathy in the world for the "no" voters, but it doesn't change the fact you are part of a union where the majority determined the direction to take the group. all the "no" voters had options to persuade the other side. If there was a question whatsoever as to the outcome of the vote being yes, a push to remove the MEC could have begun immediately. To my knowledge, this didn't happen. I'm sorry if you aren't a believer that the harsh reality is that sometimes there are casualties, hostages, or whatever you want to call them. It sucks, and I wouldn't want to be in the "no" voters shoes, but them's the breaks. Unfortunately, at this point, really the only thing the objectors can do is apologize for the actions of their coworkers. That, and get the ball rolling for an MEC recall, or ALPA decert.

Saabs 09-29-2013 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by fatsopilot (Post 1492925)
About what one would expect from a former Colgan pilot. And the popcorn thing is getting a little stale, you couldn't come up with something a little more original?

What's stale is regionals claiming they are getting flying "stolen". Yes I flew for Colgan, which was contract carrier much like current day regionals. I'm not an original kinda guy, sorry.

rightside02 09-29-2013 09:41 AM

No Voters
 
How bad or worse is this new contract ? Can anyone post some simple facts ?

Herb Flemmming 09-29-2013 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 1492944)
Bunch of cowards and deserve to be disliked and looked down upon like mesa, go jets, republic, and endeavor.

Whos left?

bonesbrigade 09-29-2013 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 1492944)
How anyone could vote yes when everyone's making money is beyond comprehension. Bunch of cowards and deserve to be disliked and looked down upon like mesa, go jets, republic, and endeavor. Enjoy working for less peanuts, you earned it. When you take your tiny checks to the bank, remember management is taking the rest of your check to their bank. Along with all that profit you've been making them I might add.

People like you are 'tarded and are the reason that most everyone in this industry thinks that pilots are dbags.

skyxbomb 09-29-2013 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Herb Flemmming (Post 1493078)
Whos left?

Well, you can always apply to silver airways, pdt, CommutAir, Great Lakes because apparently they're not a scab airline and doesn't deserve to be disliked and need to be looked up upon.

fullflank 09-29-2013 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by rightside02 (Post 1493077)
How bad or worse is this new contract ? Can anyone post some simple facts ?

Changes to health insurance. Not sure how much it will be going up though. Pay caps. F/O's at year 4 ($39.50/hr I think), CA's at year 12 ($90.00 ish). Must apply and interview at the new AA, or have your pay frozen at current longevity (continue to receive contractual raises through 2017). Anyone between year 12-18 now will not get longevity pay increases from current rate, only contractual raises. It's basically a B-scale for anyone who is not at year 18 pay already ($99/hr).

pitchtrim 09-29-2013 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by bonesbrigade (Post 1493085)
People like you are 'tarded and are the reason that most everyone in this industry thinks that pilots are dbags.

People like me stand up for what's right. The no voters are right there with me.

TMoney 09-29-2013 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1492917)
Please explain how they stole flying that isn't eagles. I'll get the butter for my popcorn.

Really? Butter for popcorn. I like the idea of sharing ideas on the forums but that is so childish. I'm trying to post logical and well developed arguments and I enjoy hearing the same in return. You can't seem to do the same. Anyway, for the sake of other readers who have a sense of professionalism:

Correct me if I'm wrong but Eagle was told if they take concessions during the bankruptcy, which they did, that they would get the new RJs. It wasn't contractual but I'm sure an Eagle guy can post some evidence for this argument. I've heard it from a few different Eagle guys. I may be wrong on that, however.

I do know that after the bankruptcy, they were offered their awful B Scale contract to get those planes on property. After their MECs stood up for the pilot group and didn't take the pay cut, another airline (PSA) said we have no self respect and don't mind taking those planes that would have otherwise been at eagle, even if it means taking concessions. That to me is stealing planes from Eagle.


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