train to proficiency?
 

How many chances do you get in a real emergency? How many chances do you get in real life difficult situations? There are no do overs.

Training to proficiency weakens our profession.

I have seen this type of training situation before at airlines. Find a new career while your young and don't embarrass yourself and our profession.

I have seen a fair number of guys who had some trouble in training, FMS work etc., who I trust my life to 100%.

And I've seen other guys who could program the sim like a true video game ace who I have no real confidence in.

A good training department knows which is which. A lazy training department will just pick the ones who'll pass a checkride with minimal cost.

Rumor has it that TSA gave a recent new hire more than 3x the regularly scheduled number of sim sessions.

This new hire then went on to set a pro-standards record before being fired.

Wow I hope you are never my sim instructor

FAA is advocating train to proficiency in the Advanced Qualification Program (AQP) presumably because it is the better safety system. Change of emphasis to systemic safety rather than traditional methods based on placing complete trust in a certificate holder (surgeon, captain) has been shown to increase safety. In surgery, a study found that introducing checklists for surgical procedures increased the overall success of surgery. The surgeons disliked it because it required running a bunch of checklists, but they caught all kinds of stuff they missed. It's similar to CRM philosophy where a unified flight crew manages crises better than a collection of (supposedly) flawless individuals.

AQP Program

L-Eagle has the best training by far. The 3 point system is the best IMHO. 3 strikes and you are downgraded or fired.

Surprisingly, more than you would think!!!!

A situation that would require you to make a life or death decision in a moments notice would be extremely rare...almost unheard of. Most situations allow you time to analyze the the situation, discuss it with your crew, run a checklist, and if it's not right....try something else.

Pilots who think they are better than everyone else weakens our profession way more than a guy who needs a little extra sim time.

+1.....amen

When I went through initial at Pinnacle (Endeavor) the Indoc, Systems, and Graphic Flight Simulator were auto-pass if you showed up and showed initiative. But...when you got to sims you'd better be able to fly the airplane. There is TTP (Train To Proficiency) but a couple of those sessions that don't look promising and you're done. Training was like 2 totally different phases. Phase I in the classroom was no biggie. Phase II in the sims was treated with a level of seriousness that you had not seen before and the difference was like night and day. And with good reason. If you can't perform in the sim you won't perform in real life when things go wrong. We had some really good instructors (who are no longer there), Eric Flemming , Jesus Rivera, & Nate Gilliam come to mind, and they knew how to teach effectively and get the most out of each sim session. Even our Check-airmen (Greg Franklin, Nick Richards for example) were always looking for an opportunity to teach when you got a line-check. It's their job to find something you do wrong. There are no perfect flights so they can find something on any given flight. And they did, but they used them as learning opportunities. If you've never been through 121 initial training you don't know what to expect so the OP's questions are valid. My 2 cents.

if the OP really is Clarence Over, he's too old now to be flying 121. So it shouldn't matter to him who has the easiest training.