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RV5M 11-27-2013 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by makersmarc (Post 1528961)
There was a legendary director of training that had this to say about extra sims:
"Why should we give anyone extra sims? If you cook a cheap cut of meat longer it doesn't make it taste any better."

I'd say that director of training was out of touch and probably not very effective. We've come a long way since WWII style military pilot training. Our industry doesn't seem to have noticed.

exdashtrash 11-27-2013 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by makersmarc (Post 1528961)
There was a legendary director of training that had this to say about extra sims:
"Why should we give anyone extra sims? If you cook a cheap cut of meat longer it doesn't make it taste any better."

Discuss

That's absurd. Cooking meat longer NEVER makes it taste better. That legendary director sounds like an idiot.

bcpilot 11-28-2013 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by 8out (Post 1528439)
How many chances do you get in a real emergency? How many chances do you get in real life difficult situations? There are no do overs.

Training to proficiency weakens our profession.

I have seen this type of training situation before at airlines. Find a new career while your young and don't embarrass yourself and our profession.

Looks like you never feel the need to practice stall recovery, engine failures or any other emergency procedures...

ClarenceOver 12-31-2013 07:09 PM

1. Whether or not I continue with this current airline , will this ATP failure be on my record

2. Second question is lets say I do not do well on my retrain session and decide to quit voluntarily, will I have to report this to whichever airline i apply?

3. And if i do have to report being a 121 experienced before and with this latest 121 atp failure, will this hurt my chances on getting on with another 121 regional airline and I know some airlines are picky on that but what airlines can I apply to that might still call me for an interview despite this latest failure

JamesNoBrakes 12-31-2013 07:24 PM

Try a slow-cooker. Made some nice pulled pork two weeks ago. Took 8hrs.

Sieve 12-31-2013 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by ClarenceOver (Post 1550393)
1. Whether or not I continue with this current airline , will this ATP failure be on my record

2. Second question is lets say I do not do well on my retrain session and decide to quit voluntarily, will I have to report this to whichever airline i apply?

3. And if i do have to report being a 121 experienced before and with this latest 121 atp failure, will this hurt my chances on getting on with another 121 regional airline and I know some airlines are picky on that but what airlines can I apply to that might still call me for an interview despite this latest failure

1. The ATP failure will remain with you whether or not you choose to stay with your current airline.

2. Since airlines are required to get a record of your previous employment, you will be expected to disclose your employment at your current airline. They will also more than likely ask you if you have had any checkride failures, and this ATP failure would count.

3. Not necessarily. Owning up to the failure and articulating what you learned from the experience will be essential in your next interview. As far as who else might offer an interview, the only way to know for sure is to apply.

Just remember, honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. Best of luck to you with whichever path you choose.

javaguy141 12-31-2013 08:18 PM

The reason people are reacting negatively: Would you be alarmed if your neurosurgeon---on the eve of YOUR MAJOR BRAIN SURGERY ---bragged to you that he picked the hospital that had the easiest residency program. Are you nervous---try your heart surgeon. Nervous yet.

TchNgo 12-31-2013 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 1528196)
Yeah, I hear Trans States has a top-notch training department, geared towards pilot success no matter the cost :D So good, in fact, I heard the long-time Chief Pilot resigned from his post to take up a coveted position as an Instructor :cool:

If you're still reading my posts, RZ, know I'm kidding. Respect.

+1 Agreed. I'm more of a lurker, but that made me lol...

ClarenceOver 12-31-2013 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by javaguy141 (Post 1550417)
The reason people are reacting negatively: Would you be alarmed if your neurosurgeon---on the eve of YOUR MAJOR BRAIN SURGERY ---bragged to you that he picked the hospital that had the easiest residency program. Are you nervous---try your heart surgeon. Nervous yet.


How would you know?

aviatorhi 12-31-2013 09:40 PM

Sorry to give you all a dose of reality, but if you can't fly the aircraft/sim and pass the ride in the programmed hours there is no reason to add training time. You simply are unfit to perform the task at hand and it is best for you to consider a career change if it is something of a recurring problem.

Too many clueless and in incompetent AllATPers and Riddle Rats are flooding the ranks already and it's high time they be shown the door.


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