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Old 12-21-2013 | 05:41 PM
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We are all so fortunate to have ALPA President Lee Moak providing such visionary leadership at the regionals.

His unwavering determination to make large contract gains in the face of the lack of supply of new pilots for the regionals is awe inspiring.

Surely the entire contents of Flying the Line part 3 will be all about him and his restoring the piloting profession.

How he drew a line in the sand and told the flying public it was no longer acceptable to pay a new hire first officer $20,000 a year to fly a $20 million dollar jet.

Amazing!! I just hope and pray he gets another term.
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Old 12-21-2013 | 11:38 PM
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ALPA blows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-22-2013 | 01:30 AM
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The FAA stood up for regionals more than Moak has. The 1500 hour rule essentially eliminates 121 carriers from being entry level jobs. For some reason ALPA is ok with pilots of 121 carriers continuing to be paid as entry level salaries.
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Old 12-22-2013 | 05:19 AM
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Funny... the legacy guys are tired of funding ALPA and representing the regionals....
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Old 12-22-2013 | 06:07 AM
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WalMart greeter: $10.50/hr X 160/mo = $1650

Regional First Officer flying $20 million dollar jet: $21/hr X 75hours/mo = $1575

No only is Captain Moak not banding the regionals together against this poverty wage, he is actually assisting management jam it down our throats.

Time for change. Time for a real leader. Time to stand together.
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Old 12-22-2013 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Snarge
Funny... the legacy guys are tired of funding ALPA and representing the regionals....
Don't blame them one bit. ALPA's days are numbered. Many regional pilots will be gladly signing cards at the majors soon helping remove ALPA remembering the joke ALPA has been at the regional level.
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Old 12-22-2013 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
WalMart greeter: $10.50/hr X 160/mo = $1650

Regional First Officer flying $20 million dollar jet: $21/hr X 75hours/mo = $1575

No only is Captain Moak not banding the regionals together against this poverty wage, he is actually assisting management jam it down our throats.

Time for change. Time for a real leader. Time to stand together.
I personally enjoy the riviting articles that come out and drabble on about how Mesa has one of the most industry leading contracts. Or how the front page of alpa is a giant rah 170 /ATP ad. To me it show absolutely no thought into the industry. They are promoting working for nothing and going to a school where you come out with $100k in debt. Alpa national only cares about alpha national. At our MEC level its run a hell of a lot better with pilot who care, national is essentially just politicians.
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Old 12-22-2013 | 07:17 AM
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It has always amused me how people who vote on and ratify poor contracts then turn around and blame ALPA National.

National didn't negotiate or accept your bad contract. YOU DID.
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Old 12-22-2013 | 08:08 AM
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It has always amused me how people who vote on and ratify poor contracts then turn around and blame ALPA National.

National didn't negotiate or accept your bad contract. YOU DID.
ALPA represents many regional carriers. If ALPA was really there for our best interests, you wouldn't have crappy airlines like PSA undercutting a fellow ALPA carrier like Eagle. ALPA is worthless!
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Old 12-22-2013 | 08:50 AM
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Again, LOCAL MECs negotiate and ratify contracts. If AE ALPA lets their management get away with a PSA type contract that's on the AE MEC. No one else.
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