Outstanding ALPA Leadership for Regionals
12-22-2013 | 09:06 AM
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Are you clueless? That doesn't work if ALPA national doesn't have some sort of guidelines for all ALPA groups to follow in order to not lower the bar. Otherwise, you will always have PSA types lowering the bar at the thought of a quick upgrade. Yes, pilots voting in this crap are at fault. However, it starts with national. If they don't allow the concessionary crap, management has no leverage in the first place.
12-22-2013 | 09:30 AM
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I personally enjoy the riviting articles that come out and drabble on about how Mesa has one of the most industry leading contracts. Or how the front page of alpa is a giant rah 170 /ATP ad. To me it show absolutely no thought into the industry. They are promoting working for nothing and going to a school where you come out with $100k in debt. Alpa national only cares about alpha national. At our MEC level its run a hell of a lot better with pilot who care, national is essentially just politicians.
One of my favorite quotes is from good old Roger Cohen,“They’re paying you to fly an airplane, and that’s pretty cool.” How thoughtless.
Source: Pilot supply a major concern for regional airlines | Wichita Eagle
12-22-2013 | 09:44 AM
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Are you clueless? That doesn't work if ALPA national doesn't have some sort of guidelines for all ALPA groups to follow in order to not lower the bar. Otherwise, you will always have PSA types lowering the bar at the thought of a quick upgrade. Yes, pilots voting in this crap are at fault. However, it starts with national. If they don't allow the concessionary crap, management has no leverage in the first place.
12-22-2013 | 01:00 PM
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ALPA is worthless in negotiations, that's why it's time to flush that turd and get a REAL UNION. A real union will not allow undercutting. It will have a bare minimum compensation policy. (Not to mention something worthwhile for a merger policy)
12-22-2013 | 04:11 PM
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Knowing what the function of ALPA National in negotiations currently is, and saying what it should be, are two completely different things. ALPA National currently has no hand whatsoever in specifying and enforcing a minimum industry contract to prevent undercutting, but it should. If MECs are left out there to their own devices, what the fark is the point of a national union?
12-23-2013 | 04:09 AM
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Knowing what the function of ALPA National in negotiations currently is, and saying what it should be, are two completely different things. ALPA National currently has no hand whatsoever in specifying and enforcing a minimum industry contract to prevent undercutting, but it should. If MECs are left out there to their own devices, what the fark is the point of a national union?
The minimum starting for a first officer flying a 50 seat jet should be $50,000/yr.
Our ALPA president has no goals. No leadership. Instead of raising the bar, he works behind the scenes for management forcing concessions when there is no pilot supply.
Captain Moak does exactly what Richard Anderson tells him to do. And that is to get the regional pilots to work for minimum wage and qualify for food stamps.
And what is his pay?
12-23-2013 | 05:17 AM
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Thanks Lee.
I contend that ALPA has realized they can't scope the regionals out, so now their play is to starve us to death.
I see a future where 10,000 disgruntled former regional pilots move to mainline carriers and start decertification campaigns. ALPA will reap what its sown.
12-23-2013 | 05:24 AM
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Does anyone have the letter from Moak to Eagle pilots? National is consulted on negotiations. You, are the one that needs to check yourself. You would be crazy to think they didn't.
12-23-2013 | 05:30 AM
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It appears that ALPA and Managements are attempting to make the regionals an undesirable place to work and exacerbating the Regional pilot shortage. More "fight another day" talk that is very disheartening.
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