Originally Posted by gold

PSA has a decent contract that was ratified last spring, probably better than most other regionals. With the new contract a line holder can easily pick up a trip at 150% and still maintain their days off. New hires are getting lines within a reasonable time and line holders can credit upwards of 100+ hours a month.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

That's a laughable statement. If you think 100 credit hours a month is a lot, then you should see the ridiculous credit hours guys are racking up here at XJT. Hell, I'm on reserve and had 12 hours at 150% and 13 hours at 200% last month with only 34 block hours. That is on TOP of my 75 hour guarantee (that's 119 credit hours if you are math challenged). I think we have had more days at 200% premium than not so far this year. In my opinion, that trend is just going to continue. But keep telling yourself that PSA's contract is "better than most".

Maybe you can enlighten us and share with the group what parts of PSA's contract are "better than most regionals"?

Originally Posted by smackahoCEO

Decent contract? Time and a half for open time? Credit 100+ hours a month? Better than most regionals?

PSA has nothing. The pilot group/MEC is weak. The fact that you morons took any kind of concession when your parent company is sitting on $10.1 billion cash is simply retarted. Have you ever read another regionals contract? No you haven't. You read things on message boards and draw conclusions. ASA/XJT, Awac, Skywest, compass all blow PSA out of the water when it comes to a contract. You need to rephrase. You have a "decent contract when compared to other bottom feeders." I've read it.

If this does come to you guys at PSA, you need to wake up. Pinnacle took theirs up the rear because of bankruptcy. You morons take whatever is put in front of you (I'm not talking to the 30% who voted no. I'm talking to the majority of the group). Wake up. Parent company sitting on $10.1 billion cash. Nobody else is taking concessions. You're such a small fish in the pond, but your actions affect the entire sector of the industry. I can't wait to see how staffing goes once these new planes show up and guys are leaving left and right from regionals.

Originally Posted by smackahoCEO

Decent contract? Time and a half for open time? Credit 100+ hours a month? Better than most regionals?

PSA has nothing. The pilot group/MEC is weak. The fact that you morons took any kind of concession when your parent company is sitting on $10.1 billion cash is simply retarted. Have you ever read another regionals contract? No you haven't. You read things on message boards and draw conclusions. ASA/XJT, Awac, Skywest, compass all blow PSA out of the water when it comes to a contract. You need to rephrase. You have a "decent contract when compared to other bottom feeders." I've read it.

If this does come to you guys at PSA, you need to wake up. Pinnacle took theirs up the rear because of bankruptcy. You morons take whatever is put in front of you (I'm not talking to the 30% who voted no. I'm talking to the majority of the group). Wake up. Parent company sitting on $10.1 billion cash. Nobody else is taking concessions. You're such a small fish in the pond, but your actions affect the entire sector of the industry. I can't wait to see how staffing goes once these new planes show up and guys are leaving left and right from regionals.

Originally Posted by Bzzt

The Master Executive Council of the American Eagle Pilot’s Union, the Airline Pilots Association (ALPA), voted today to reject management’s recent concessionary proposal. The company proposal would have given American Airlines Group (AAG) contract concessions in return for refleeting American Eagle Airlines with new Embraer 175 jets.

Company representatives made it clear that should the pilots and management fail to reach a deal, the company will not entertain future negotiations. Negotiators for AAG also stated numerous times that if a deal fails to be ratified, American Eagle Airlines will be downsized continually until it is small enough to liquidate.

Captain William Sprague, Chairman of the pilot’s union had this to say: “The vote today was about the future of Eagle pilots and the regional airline pilot profession. The pilots negotiated and signed a concessionary agreement during the recent bankruptcy, and management asked us soon after AAG exited bankruptcy for additional, significant concessions. Our pilots decided they were not willing to work for less than the company is already paying our peers. We will now begin the process of assisting our pilots in identifying alternative career options within the industry.”

During the coming days, ALPA will be working with the American Eagle pilots to help them find placement with other airlines. ALPA representatives will ask management for their timetable regarding the liquidation of American Eagle. Stay engaged as we move forward. The need for unity is more critical now than any other time in our history.

John Gardner, Chairman

EGL ALPA Communications Committee

Looks like the MEC does not believe this was all a bluff.

Originally Posted by gold

PSA has a decent contract that was ratified last spring, probably better than most other regionals. With the new contract a line holder can easily pick up a trip at 150% and still maintain their days off. New hires are getting lines within a reasonable time and line holders can credit upwards of 100+ hours a month.

Originally Posted by gold

There's no need to get excited because I used the word decent and PSA in the same sentence. My guess is L-XJT has one of the better contracts among regionals.

Originally Posted by gold

You're making a lot of assumptions based on vague comment I made.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

You said "probably better than most other regionals". I highlighted it for you. That was the statement I thought was laughable.

And your guess is correct. XJT does have one of the best contracts in the regional game. How do you think we got it and have kept it? It wasn't just bestowed upon us and defended by mythical Nordic gods. It came on the backs of the sacrifices of our brothers and sisters at Comair who had the cajones to stand up to Delta in 2001, the ones who were here in 2004 who fought hard for a decent contract and again last month when 83% of us voted NO! It's ancient history, but ExpressJet went from being a "pay to play" outfit to being one of the largest and most respected regional airlines out there. Don't just accept the status quo because that seems easiest.

I'm going to chalk your statements up to either ignorance or a case of "loving the one you're with". Maybe both?

Originally Posted by smackahoCEO

Exactly what did I assume?