Eagle/envoy Aip killed by mec

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Quote: Those 175's are coming regardless of this rejection. I can't see them awarding those airframes to another carrier due to the fact that no regional can staff what they have (see Republic thread). The only way to get those airplanes crewed is to use who's already on the payroll, so I think that Eagle will still get them but lose all the 50 seaters. A less likely scenario would be to merge Eagle into PSA and adopt their cost friendly contract, but I don't really see that happening. Last, I certainly don't see them going to mainline, because that would be way more costly than you guys flying it at your current book. Essentially, I think you Eagle guys called the bluff. The only way the company can crew those incoming airplanes is to swap them out for your 50 seaters and use your current manpower.
Had this discussion with a few pilots last week -

If a person applies for a bank loan to buy a house, the bank is going to require some sort of plan before they put their money on the line. The same could be said about AAG purchasing the 175's. No financier would loan them ~$2B (at list price) to buy 60 175's unless they had a firm plan for their deployment. Mason32 seems to corroborate this in his posts, and he has been very accurate with the information he has provided so far.
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Quote: Those 175's are coming regardless of this rejection. I can't see them awarding those airframes to another carrier due to the fact that no regional can staff what they have (see Republic thread). The only way to get those airplanes crewed is to use who's already on the payroll, so I think that Eagle will still get them but lose all the 50 seaters. A less likely scenario would be to merge Eagle into PSA and adopt their cost friendly contract, but I don't really see that happening. Last, I certainly don't see them going to mainline, because that would be way more costly than you guys flying it at your current book. Essentially, I think you Eagle guys called the bluff. The only way the company can crew those incoming airplanes is to swap them out for your 50 seaters and use your current manpower.
Moving those jets to mainline might be the answer. There are so few legacy carriers now, with the reduced competition, it might be the right time to make this move. I'm sure the bean counters are all over this and will be looking at it again in light of what has happened.
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Quote: Why would I care if this job is good for people 15 years from now? All I care about is if it's good for me, I sure as hell wouldn't let my child become a pilot. The AIP was good for me as it got me on the left seat faster, everything else is irrelevant.

Hey bzzt do you mind if I share your posts with my 9 year old Sunday school class? We're having a lesson about how selfishness leads to unhappiness.
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Star Telegram is reporting the news.

American Eagle pilots union leaders reject contract deal | American Airlines | American ...
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Nice work guys. I'm glad the MEC had a pair, even though I know the pilots would have sent this one down in flames. STW!
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Thank you to the Eagle MEC and pilots. Enough is enough and I applaud you for standing up for what's right. So far we have stood together in the fight, let's hope we can get RAH on board next and end this once and for all!

7 yr XJT FO
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Quote: If you are so ashamed than quit.
No, I'm gonna stay Captain so you can sit as an F/o longer, now you can enjoy your crappy f/o wages you anxiously approved for an extended time. Karma is a ....
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Quote: This guy gets it.
From XJT pilot

Does he really though? The union can do nothing about how much a new hire is paid....

I mentioned seniority for bidding to eagle pilots in a couple other threads and got crickets.
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Quote: Nice work guys. I'm glad the MEC had a pair, even though I know the pilots would have sent this one down in flames. STW!
Not handing it off to the pilots sends a message too.
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Well done, Gentlemen....
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