New email from Lee Moak
02-17-2014 | 08:17 PM
#31
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I remember when that used to be true and regionals were less than half the traffic. Thing is, that's no longer true. If what you said was correct, we wouldn't have 7 and 10 year regional pilots like we do right now. They would have spent 1-2 years and "moved on", like the recruiters and colleges told them. Bottom line, that "model" is broken, it hasn't worked like that in years. You need to face reality.
02-17-2014 | 08:32 PM
#32
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The reality is the retirement age was raised from 60 to 65. This caused the industry to freeze for 5 years. I've got news for you. Your extra 5 years aren't at the end of your career in the highest paying seat. Your extra 5 years are spent in whatever seat you were in when the age limit was raised. For some, this meant instead of spending 2-5 years at a regional, guys are spending 7-10 years. This will change now that the 5 year freeze is over. It is still a stepping stone job. Age 65 affected all of us a lot more than people realize.
02-18-2014 | 04:48 AM
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No, it won't, because there's 135, corporate, military, and all those other guys fighting it out to be the "select few" that get on with "the majors". Because regionals take up so much of the air traffic volume, the system doesn't work like it used to. There's a surplus of pilots for a shortage of major airline jobs. Retirement will help, but it's not going to be some crazy boom, you and everyone else has been predicting that for 30+ years for all sorts of reasons. If it wasn't "age 65" it was "increased travel of retired baby boomers" or whatever the flavor of the moment. I don't like being so cynical, but you are the textbook definition of "dangling the carrot".
02-18-2014 | 05:13 AM
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I'm trying to find data going farther back than 1999. And didn't American just announce last year they needed more regional lift to be competitive?
02-18-2014 | 06:12 AM
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I give him 90 days to make significant visible changes. If I see nothing but emails, youtube videos, silly meetings and no measurable changes...then I'm done with you Mr. Moak.
So stop spending all your time making videos and writing emails and get to work. Your time is ticking...
The next update I want from you is regional change updates and securing the new minimums for hiring and rest rules. That's it...
I got the previous ALPA email that stated there was no pilot shortage, just a shortage of pilots that don't want to work for bottom dollar. I GET IT...I didn't need an additional video to explain that...
Stop with show and get to work...
So stop spending all your time making videos and writing emails and get to work. Your time is ticking...
The next update I want from you is regional change updates and securing the new minimums for hiring and rest rules. That's it...
I got the previous ALPA email that stated there was no pilot shortage, just a shortage of pilots that don't want to work for bottom dollar. I GET IT...I didn't need an additional video to explain that...
Stop with show and get to work...
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