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02-17-2014 | 06:13 PM

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The Juice

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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer

Great write up. Unfortunately the passengers care about how cheap their ticket is, they will just complain about the size of the plane once they step on board.

Why is it the passengers responsibility to care about pilot wages when there are pilots applying for these jobs and others willing to take concessions to fly them?

Seriously, there are pilots voting to take less money in order to take airplanes away from fellow union pilots. Why should a passenger care when pilots are willing canabilise eachother?

02-17-2014 | 09:16 PM

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Junglejett

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Here is the universal excuse for crappy wages.

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Originally Posted by block30

How else does one go to the majors? Flight instruct, freight dawg, fly corporate, etc. until the majors call? There are shady operators at all of those mentioned sub sets of aviation, too.

02-18-2014 | 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Junglejett

Here is the universal excuse for crappy wages.

I think that's a fair question. Please, if we all boycott the regionals, what is the way all of us become qualified for a job in the majors?

02-18-2014 | 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

I think that's a fair question. Please, if we all boycott the regionals, what is the way all of us become qualified for a job in the majors?

If everyone (like seriously, everyone) boycotts the regionals, the majors would have to pick up the flying and lower their qualifications.

That will obviously never happen though.

02-18-2014 | 04:53 AM

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block30

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

If everyone (like seriously, everyone) boycotts the regionals, the majors would have to pick up the flying and lower their qualifications.

That will obviously never happen though.

Yes, this. By trying to "stick it to the regionals" all you find is that you are behind (practcally) everyone else who went to the regionals ASAP- including the children of mainline pilots. Can someone be choosy about a particular company? Sure! But if you are implying any pilot just starts their first, second or even third job, post commercial check ride making fair wages, I have not seen this.

02-18-2014 | 05:08 AM

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Tinpusher007

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

If everyone (like seriously, everyone) boycotts the regionals, the majors would have to pick up the flying and lower their qualifications.

That will obviously never happen though.

Its beginning to happen now in the form of regionals not being able to hire.

02-18-2014 | 06:46 AM

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beech1980

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

I think that's a fair question. Please, if we all boycott the regionals, what is the way all of us become qualified for a job in the majors?

I flew part 135 and part 91 biz jets. its a way. unfortunately there are not enough of those jobs for everyone to avoid the regionals.

02-18-2014 | 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by block30

I may be "behind" those that went to the regionals but I'm out of debt and have a decent amount of money in an IRA. If neither a regional pilot or me make it to the majors I'd say I'm pretty far ahead. The biggest problem with the regionals is how everyone views it as a stepping stone. Its a job. You work hard, study hard, and are a highly trained professional. You deserve to be compensated as such.

02-18-2014 | 07:08 AM

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JoeyMeatballs

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Originally Posted by the juice

why is it the passengers responsibility to care about pilot wages when there are pilots applying for these jobs and others willing to take concessions to fly them?

Seriously, there are pilots voting to take less money in order to take airplanes away from fellow union pilots. Why should a passenger care when pilots are willing canabilise eachother?

+1

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02-18-2014 | 08:32 AM

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Junglejett

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Also...those pay rates, are voted in by pilots, not forced down their throats by management. Do not like the rates, vote no.

(This is assuming you are a union shop)