Regional First Officer Pay
02-18-2014, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Joliet
Well... If you just must know,
The US Airways company lanyards are the only approved lanyards for Piedmont, PSA, and US Airways employees to wear. This came about because of the yellow On Board USAPA lanyards.
I'm not really sure why you are all hung up on lanyards though. Do you get upset when someone wears a Big 10 university or NFL lanyard and the person doesn't work there?
The US Airways company lanyards are the only approved lanyards for Piedmont, PSA, and US Airways employees to wear. This came about because of the yellow On Board USAPA lanyards.
I'm not really sure why you are all hung up on lanyards though. Do you get upset when someone wears a Big 10 university or NFL lanyard and the person doesn't work there?
02-18-2014, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
You missed the entire point. Congrats. Yeah, because Big 10 lanyards is an issue with Regional pay.
Who cares.
02-18-2014, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Joliet
So is wearing a United Airlines lanyard when you work at Commutair?
Who cares.
Who cares.
Keep voting in those concessions, buddy! Im sure you will find yourself in the left seat of one of those shiny new RJs soon enough. Heck, for less money, you can maybe get there even quicker!
02-18-2014, 03:10 PM
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The point of this original post is the frightful first year FO pay. There have been many changes in the industry since the Colgan crash with one exception. FO PAY!!! I ask any of you who have worked for their wages of 16.24 to 24 dollars per flight hour and never complained during that first year. The FAA can change regs and create new ones but what they can't do is make a private company change how much they pay these FO's.
02-18-2014, 07:29 PM
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The FAA can change regs and create new ones but what they can't do is make a private company change how much they pay these FO's.[/QUOTE]
Can't they? I think the by-product of the new rules (ATP, FAR 117, Age 65) is a shortage of qualified pilots willing to work for the meager pay currently offered by the majority of regionals. The consequence may be unintentional, but the new rules certainly have created a position of opportunity for pilots, especially those pilots with an ATP. IMO.
Can't they? I think the by-product of the new rules (ATP, FAR 117, Age 65) is a shortage of qualified pilots willing to work for the meager pay currently offered by the majority of regionals. The consequence may be unintentional, but the new rules certainly have created a position of opportunity for pilots, especially those pilots with an ATP. IMO.
02-22-2014, 09:12 PM
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This is how greedy and abusive Regional management are.
A regional operating a CRJ 900 or a E175 with 76 seats that is paying a First Officer $37 an hour is paying him less than 50 cents per seat of what the passenger is paying. The captain is paid $1 to $1,5 per seat. The total cost for both pilots is $1,5 to $2 per seat or per each $370 dollar ticket. It must clearly be the lowest part of operating that aircraft and it is ridiculously low.
People tip the van driver to the airport more than what they pay for the pilot flying them. How in the hell can management get away with this?
A regional operating a CRJ 900 or a E175 with 76 seats that is paying a First Officer $37 an hour is paying him less than 50 cents per seat of what the passenger is paying. The captain is paid $1 to $1,5 per seat. The total cost for both pilots is $1,5 to $2 per seat or per each $370 dollar ticket. It must clearly be the lowest part of operating that aircraft and it is ridiculously low.
People tip the van driver to the airport more than what they pay for the pilot flying them. How in the hell can management get away with this?
02-22-2014, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HermannGraf
This is how greedy and abusive Regional management are.
A regional operating a CRJ 900 or a E175 with 76 seats that is paying a First Officer $37 an hour is paying him less than 50 cents per seat of what the passenger is paying. The captain is paid $1 to $1,5 per seat. The total cost for both pilots is $1,5 to $2 per seat or per each $370 dollar ticket. It must clearly be the lowest part of operating that aircraft and it is ridiculously low.
People tip the van driver to the airport more than what they pay for the pilot flying them. How in the hell can management get away with this?
A regional operating a CRJ 900 or a E175 with 76 seats that is paying a First Officer $37 an hour is paying him less than 50 cents per seat of what the passenger is paying. The captain is paid $1 to $1,5 per seat. The total cost for both pilots is $1,5 to $2 per seat or per each $370 dollar ticket. It must clearly be the lowest part of operating that aircraft and it is ridiculously low.
People tip the van driver to the airport more than what they pay for the pilot flying them. How in the hell can management get away with this?
02-23-2014, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYZERG
Management can get away with it because PSA pilots think it's awesome to vote in a pay cut, while everyone else was telling management to go fist themselves
02-23-2014, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Why is it the passengers responsibility to care about pilot wages when there are pilots applying for these jobs and others willing to take concessions to fly them?
Seriously, there are pilots voting to take less money in order to take airplanes away from fellow union pilots. Why should a passenger care when pilots are willing canabilise eachother?
Seriously, there are pilots voting to take less money in order to take airplanes away from fellow union pilots. Why should a passenger care when pilots are willing canabilise eachother?
They need to know the major airlines are gladly taking their cash to sell them a ticket, boozing profits while failing to increase the pay of pilots to properly staff the flights they have sold.
02-23-2014, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Chupacabras
Because when that passenger gets stuck in Flint, MI due to "pilot shortage" because the regional partner does not have a pilot to operate the flight, that passenger needs to know the reason they are going to mis-connect to attend grandmas funeral, vacation, etc...
They need to know the major airlines are gladly taking their cash to sell them a ticket, boozing profits while failing to increase the pay of pilots to properly staff the flights they have sold.
They need to know the major airlines are gladly taking their cash to sell them a ticket, boozing profits while failing to increase the pay of pilots to properly staff the flights they have sold.
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