Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1594056)

Sad, but true. The assessment WILL continue! But I have an axe to grind with this union and the NC. They are a crooked bunch and I will cut off my nose to spite my face. Misery loves company. No more cush trips for them. They can all kiss my a$$.
Btw, I voted NO on assessment, did you?

Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 1594100)

Maybe you should have been a little less apathetic and considered running for a position instead of letting this group be appointed. Out of 2000+ they are the only ones that were willing. You're getting exactly what you didn't care to vote for.

Originally Posted by ThrustMonkey (Post 1594128)

You can't fix stupid. Good luck RAH bro's keeping this lack of foresight mentality from banding together and voting in that joke of a TA.

Originally Posted by WeaselBoy (Post 1593955)

Utipia? Is that when UltiPro works perfectly?



Signing bonus needs to be above what they are giving to the new hires off the street. Period.



And? I'm willing to send this back to the Company to get it fixed. This will easily be a seven year contract, if not ten. I get we are not going to have a mainline contract, but at the end of the day, my paycheck needs to be slightly higher than what SkyWest is making now.

Right now this contract doesn't even cover the inflation from the 2003 CBA.

The Company is desperate to get this contract done. They'll be just as desperate after we vote this one down.

I'd rather wait six months to a year for a decent contract to work under for the next seven years than start a crappy contract tomorrow.



We pay the least amount of dues than any other unionized carrier. If you feel that is too much, you can resign your union membership at any time.
How can I resign my union membership? | National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation

Of course, after you do that you don't get to vote yes, or no, on any contract, LOA, etc.

Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1594235)

Lack of foresight? I take it you're a f9 guy? Talk about the pot and the kettle.

Originally Posted by spuzzyair (Post 1594240)

You feel you deserve to be paid more than SkyWest, or you are saying in order for it to keep people from leaving and to attracting new hires it needs to pay more than SkyWest??

Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1594234)

You are correct indeed. What we should have done or do next time, is hire a professional. Lawyer, agent, whatever. Pilots are not good negotiators by nature.Cheapskates, booze- hounds yes, but not wheelers and dealers.

Originally Posted by spuzzyair (Post 1594240)

You feel you deserve to be paid more than SkyWest, or you are saying in order for it to keep people from leaving and to attracting new hires it needs to pay more than SkyWest??