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Old 03-13-2014 | 09:05 AM
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Just look at how happy those 2 are to be indentured servants and I bet they would even bunk up two to a room to save the company money. Brian Bedford is ready to " reformulate the whole vocation of the pilot". Mark my words, management will NEVER let the pilots gain leverage. They are using the pilot shortage as a tactic to demonstrate to congress that the the only viable solution is to adopt the MPL and create PFT puppy mills with debt bondage to the company with a fancy peanut salary to boot. You don't have worry about them attacking the 1500hr rule, they already have another option. Where is Alpa on this?


Just a matter of time. So much for the mythical pilot shortage...

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Old 03-13-2014 | 09:09 AM
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There are people working to get the MPL passed in this country. Self serving people.

If they succeed, then yes, the pilot career will be about as attractive as house maid service is.
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Old 03-13-2014 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BackintheLPA
Just look at how happy those 2 are to be indentured servants ]
Yea but they're flying the airbus tho!
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Old 03-13-2014 | 09:16 AM
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Not knowing much about the MPL, how long until they could upgrade? Would people holding unrestricted ATPs now be able to still get on at somewhere decent? Hopefully airlines wouldn't adobt something similar to what Cathay does...
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Old 03-13-2014 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
Would people holding unrestricted ATPs now be able to still get on at somewhere decent?
Only if you demonstrate to the HR types who run the hiring circus that you are passive, will emotionally vest yourself, and put the needs of the company above the people you care about most. They want individuals with a personality type that will accept the company's abusive practices first. It's a bonus if you happen to be a decent pilot.

Upgrade requirements would probably be in compliance with the new ATP rules and 121 time requirements. Which are still low to be a 121 captain.

There are only two real barriers to entry that will allow for improvement in pay and quality of life. Experience and financing the training. MPL solves both issues by lowering the experience required and setting the stage for company sponsored PFT. It wasn't too long ago that Mesa had Mesa Pilot Development just outside Phoenix. With students unable to discharge student loan debt in bankruptcy, all the airlines have to do is set it up like a for-profit college and let the future sucker...I mean pilot...enter into loan debt or debt bondage to the company if they can't get approved. The financially ignorant will trip over themselves for the opportunity to exercise SJS.

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Old 03-13-2014 | 09:55 AM
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AF 447 went down because the 2800 hr fo held the side stick back almost until impact. Asiana flight crashed short of the runway. Still to be determined what happened to the MH flight. Do these carriers have mpl programs?
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Old 03-13-2014 | 10:19 AM
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This will be for the regionals. The majors won't have a shortage problem and these pilots would make just as much as any other new-hire and probably cost more to train and maintain at the majors anyway. Whenever a shortage hits the majors, THEN you'll start to see the gear-handle cowboys show up. Not only will regional captains make less in the coming years, they'll now be giving free dual and high workload/stress for the privilege.

Hope to watch this nightmare from the box seats by the time it becomes standard and I don't plan to do much, if any flying as a passenger on the airlines at that point. Perhaps add a concrete roof to my house as well.
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Old 03-13-2014 | 10:25 AM
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AF 447 went down because the 2800 hr fo held the side stick back almost until impact. Asiana flight crashed short of the runway. Still to be determined what happened to the MH flight. Do these carriers have mpl programs?
I'm sure Air France does...Don't know about Asiana. Besides that's what insurance is for. Run some low fares and maybe a name change if branding is an issue. Problem solved...business as usual.
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Old 03-13-2014 | 11:13 AM
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The Malaysian FO was 27 years old, had 2700 hours, and had worked there 7 years.

Do that math...
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Old 03-13-2014 | 11:17 AM
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MPL implementation around the world
http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/ops-inf...Pages/mpl.aspx

Assuming $600/hour for level D sim time and $150/hour for airplane time here's how it breaks down:

Synopses of programs worldwide:

Sim hours: 155 hours ($93,000) to 292 hours ($175,000)
Flight hours: 79 hours ($11,850) to 115 hours ($17,250)

Total retail cost: $104,850-$192,250

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