Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1605562)

I don't think NW ever owned Midwest. They had a minority ownership stake that was written off around the merger if not before. There was no way management faced already with a surplus of pilots and other employees would have even considered throwing more employees and pilots into that mix. They also might have had to assume Midwest obligations at that point. There is no way ALPA or LM could have ever talked the company into that. I guess you just want someone to blame.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1604880)

Wow, who knew that LM was running Delta airlines! I missed that part. Management decides on who they merge with not ALPA or any other union. Management also controls the seniority list and decides who goes on that list unless you have a specific contractual item. That point is forgotten over and over again or never really understood. Some pilots actually think their union or another union could simply decide to integrate another airline into their list. It simply does not work that way.

Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1608379)

Sailingfun, you know better than that. Eagle, Mesa, and RAH all negotiated single lists to combine multiple pilot groups. TranStates had a negotiated deal to combine GoJets, but the deal wasn't ratified. You may not want to spend the negotiating capital, but saying it isn't possible simply isn't true.