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stanherman 03-27-2014 09:07 AM

Take your yes crap and shove it up your a**.

At least I know my no vote cancels your yes vote out.

Freeflyfreak 03-27-2014 09:48 AM

LMAO @ "independent view"

You have to be kidding.

pagey 03-27-2014 11:41 AM




Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1611011)
So they are offered the job and can start the first time a class of more than 30 happens.

This is not how our language is written, I'm not seeing how a new agreement at Eagle would circumvent one already in place at PSA.
Ohhh they will!!! Gotta have those new 30 CR9 flying...

Welcome to AA where they will violate the contract. You will grieve it and 10 yrs later you might win.

What if they send interviews and decide not to hire a single PSA guy? You will be stuck at PSA with your pay frozen.
They can't just "not hire a single PSA guy". Our contract isn't for interviews, it's for jobs.

Of course violating the contract is not out of the question but that is true with any contract.

Bzzt's scenario is way more likely to happen than yours.

buddies8 03-27-2014 11:53 AM

one half the new hire slots are L-eagle with minimum transfer to aa at 20 a month, but the one half slots no filled by L-eagle pilots is owned by said pilots withheld, this is the 824. after the 824 it is 50% of new hires at 25 a month minimum. most of this is due to arbitration and latter is current cba at L-eagle.

PSA gets preferred interview and management decides which 4 per month can have a job at US airways and you can be withheld for up to 12 months with no retroactive seniority of benefits.

I believe that explains both sides as is current.

cartean 03-27-2014 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1611301)
one half the new hire slots are L-eagle with minimum transfer to aa at 20 a month, but the one half slots no filled by L-eagle pilots is owned by said pilots withheld, this is the 824. after the 824 it is 50% of new hires at 25 a month minimum. most of this is due to arbitration and latter is current cba at L-eagle.

PSA gets preferred interview and management decides which 4 per month can have a job at US airways and you can be withheld for up to 12 months with no retroactive seniority of benefits.

I believe that explains both sides as is current.

Psa can be held till year end (ie December) not 12 months. Not that it matters that much.

buddies8 03-27-2014 12:20 PM

gotcha rolling 12 months per individual

pagey 03-27-2014 12:29 PM


gotcha rolling 12 months per individual
No, if you are "hired" in November the latest you can go is December of the current year.

Bzzt 03-27-2014 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1611330)
No, if you are "hired" in November the latest you can go is December of the current year.

If our vote passes the interesting situation will be if only 360 are hired at AA in a year. Contractually that would mean all 360 would be from Eagle but they're also required to hire a portion of PSA guys.

Edit: That probably won't matter til the SLI between AA and US which is going to take an incredibly long time. I doubt my scenario will ever come to pass.

Skyvector 03-27-2014 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1611348)
If our vote passes the interesting situation will be if only 360 are hired at AA in a year. Contractually that would mean all 360 would be from Eagle but they're also required to hire a portion of PSA guys.

Edit: That probably won't matter til the SLI between AA and US which is going to take an incredibly long time. I doubt my scenario will ever come to pass.

This was addressed on the conference call today. The first 30 AA hires per month have to be from Eagle and/or 100% up to 360.

That takes precedent over PSA's 4 per month. For PSA's 4 to get class dates AA would need to hire over the above numbers. Otherwise Eagle's flow trumps it.

It was specifically said that Eagle's flow made certain people at PSA "very angry" .

Bzzt 03-27-2014 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1611353)
This was addressed on the conference call today. The first 30 AA hires per month have to be from Eagle and/or 100% up to 360.

That takes precedent over PSA's 4 per month. For PSA's 4 to get class dates AA would need to hire over the above numbers. Otherwise Eagle's flow trumps it.

It was specifically said that Eagle's flow made certain people at PSA "very angry" .

For right now isn't the PSA flow to US Airways? So technically this doesn't matter til the SLI is complete.


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