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exwaterski 04-11-2014 04:37 PM

It's sure going to be interesting to see what they do. I thought for sure it was going to be Mesa but maybe they don't want to jeopardize what they have going with United. If I had to bet I'd put my money on TSH.

spaaks 04-11-2014 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1621582)
we saw there plan B after the mec voted NO. they were noty coming back and we were shutting down. They did come back and we are not shut down was there Plan B. problem is the pilots voted No and there plan C is nowhere to be seen. Pedro does not decide what eagle/envoy will or will not do. Pedro is even lower on the totem poll than garton was, at least garton was number 3, pedro barely makes it to number 8.

You would have thought by now they would have announced who the low bidder for the e175's was or were, oh wait that is us. Being that the purchase order was placed last year for the 900 and 175's.

Smoke and mirrors and keep moving the peanut shell is all they can do at this time. If true, PSA cant, PDT is not, Mesa said NO, SKW has turned flying back to AAG, EJT has turned flying back to AAG, Republic said we are cancelling the CHQ feed contract with AAG.

Skywest returned flying back to aa? That doesn't sound right

lakehouse 04-11-2014 07:38 PM

Where's Mason now and his info?

Mason32 04-11-2014 08:59 PM


Where's Mason now and his info?
What would you like to know? I've already told you those are your planes. They just need a way to save face and give them to you.

Paid2fly 04-11-2014 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1621822)
What would you like to know? I've already told you those are your planes. They just need a way to save face and give them to you.







I think Eagle/Envoy should tell management they might be willing to accept the flying if they are offered a double digit increase to do so!

PilotJ3 04-12-2014 04:58 AM



Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1621822)
What would you like to know? I've already told you those are your planes. They just need a way to save face and give them to you.



I think Eagle/Envoy should tell management they might be willing to accept the flying if they are offered a double digit increase to do so!
We don't have to tell them anything. We told them already, we gave 43millions in concessions, we helped them when they need it.

They just don't want to come and bargain in 2016, because by then it will be a mess in the regional industry and they will have to pay us.

PilotJ3 04-12-2014 05:02 AM



Where's Mason now and his info?
What would you like to know? I've already told you those are your planes. They just need a way to save face and give them to you.
That's easy, fire Pedro and Winkley. Say "I apologize, world changed again since we talked in January, here are the planes. Thanks for the business and let's keep doing a great job!!!"

I know, I know...it won't happen. But hey, it's being 2 weeks and they haven't said **** about those airplanes. No news is good news, I think.

lakehouse 04-12-2014 06:10 AM

Expect big changes in eagle management

lakehouse 04-12-2014 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1621822)
What would you like to know? I've already told you those are your planes. They just need a way to save face and give them to you.

When do you project an announcement. How many will be given to someone else first to save face, and at what cost next time they come back.

PilotJ3 04-12-2014 07:10 AM


Expect big changes in eagle management
You mean Envoy Managment? Lol!!!!

I expect that too, probably sometime before summer. They need to start working on that Ejet training program ASAP.

lakehouse 04-12-2014 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1621981)
You mean Envoy Managment? Lol!!!!

I expect that too, probably sometime before summer. They need to start working on that Ejet training program ASAP.

I know nothing about ejets, but rumor has it by months end bye bye some heads of envoy.

PilotJ3 04-12-2014 07:26 AM



Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1621981)
You mean Envoy Managment? Lol!!!!

I expect that too, probably sometime before summer. They need to start working on that Ejet training program ASAP.

I know nothing about ejets, but rumor has it by months end bye bye some heads of envoy.
That would be great man. I Know that we are tired of how they treat us. It's time for a change...

SkylineAviation 04-12-2014 07:39 AM

Eagle Pilots Vote No!
 
Hopefully one of the one's to leave is Pedro. Nothing good will happen to this company under his leadership.

JT8D 04-12-2014 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 1622005)
Hopefully one of the one's to leave is Pedro. Nothing good will happen to this company under his leadership.

But the poor guy just financed an $800K house! Whatever shall he do?!

PilotJ3 04-12-2014 10:19 AM



Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 1622005)
Hopefully one of the one's to leave is Pedro. Nothing good will happen to this company under his leadership.

But the poor guy just financed an $800K house! Whatever shall he do?!
He will just change position to VP of something.

Then everybody will forget him...

JT8D 04-12-2014 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1622070)
He will just change position to VP of something.

Then everybody will forget him...

Pobrecito el jefe :(

air101 04-12-2014 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1621582)
we saw there plan B after the mec voted NO. they were noty coming back and we were shutting down. They did come back and we are not shut down was there Plan B. problem is the pilots voted No and there plan C is nowhere to be seen. Pedro does not decide what eagle/envoy will or will not do. Pedro is even lower on the totem poll than garton was, at least garton was number 3, pedro barely makes it to number 8.

You would have thought by now they would have announced who the low bidder for the e175's was or were, oh wait that is us. Being that the purchase order was placed last year for the 900 and 175's.

Smoke and mirrors and keep moving the peanut shell is all they can do at this time. If true, PSA cant, PDT is not, Mesa said NO, SKW has turned flying back to AAG, EJT has turned flying back to AAG, Republic said we are cancelling the CHQ feed contract with AAG.


Wrong. SKW has not turned any flying back to AA. In fact, it added more planes in support for American's operation in ORD. The routes may be shifting a bit, but by no means is it a draw down in OO flying for AA.

Bzzt 04-12-2014 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1622110)
Wrong. SKW has not turned any flying back to AA. In fact, it added more planes in support for American's operation in ORD. The routes may be shifting a bit, but by no means is it a draw down in OO flying for AA.

I think what he meant is that Skywest has turned down additional flying, which they've also done with United.

Mason32 04-12-2014 02:57 PM



Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1621822)
What would you like to know? I've already told you those are your planes. They just need a way to save face and give them to you.

When do you project an announcement. How many will be given to someone else first to save face, and at what cost next time they come back.
Some type of news by the end of the month, perhaps sooner. You'll know it when you hear it. All is not as it seems.

The Chow 04-12-2014 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1622150)
Some type of news by the end of the month, perhaps sooner. You'll know it when you hear it. All is not as it seems.

They (management) had better do or say something quick. We're losing a lot of people in a short amount of time. I've gone up by 140 numbers in 2 months. At this rate, it's going to be a summer to remember.

buddies8 04-12-2014 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1622150)
Some type of news by the end of the month, perhaps sooner. You'll know it when you hear it. All is not as it seems.

would that be low ball for E175's for AAG.

Bzzt 04-12-2014 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1622150)
Some type of news by the end of the month, perhaps sooner. You'll know it when you hear it. All is not as it seems.

As in "We're giving these airplanes to XYZ" but they really aren't? Like someone else said we're losing pilots at an incredible pace, if management wants to continue to dick around this place isn't going to exist whether they like it or not.

Westerner 04-12-2014 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1622194)
As in "We're giving these airplanes to XYZ" but they really aren't? Like someone else said we're losing pilots at an incredible pace, if management wants to continue to dick around this place isn't going to exist whether they like it or not.

That's the way it's looking. They justified everything with having to do whats "in the best interest of the shareholders". Mismanaging this situation so badly that it negatively effects AAGs feed doesn't seem like it would be good for the stock price.

fastsail 04-12-2014 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1622110)
Wrong. SKW has not turned any flying back to AA. In fact, it added more planes in support for American's operation in ORD. The routes may be shifting a bit, but by no means is it a draw down in OO flying for AA.

I have heard that ORD flying is only temporary. AA wants Skywest to do it permanently, but Skywest said NO. They only agreed to do it under a short term contract.

buddies8 04-12-2014 05:21 PM

Poor AAG cant even pay someone to get the egg off there face. They are going to have to dig a little deeper in there pockets to make good on there threats to the eagle pilot's.

fastsail 04-12-2014 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1622213)
Poor AAG cant even pay someone to get the egg off there face. They are going to have to dig a little deeper in there pockets to make good on there threats to the eagle pilot's.

Their and their.

buddies8 04-12-2014 07:17 PM

to or too...

samballs 04-12-2014 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by JT8D (Post 1622067)
But the poor guy just financed an $800K house! Whatever shall he do?!

He a wiener!!

samballs 04-12-2014 07:39 PM

Doug Parker ****ed up us air. Then thought he could change the regionals. He failed badly at that and now every airline will pay because Parker sucks. But don't worry the aa pilots thought Parker was cool.

samballs 04-12-2014 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by fastsail (Post 1622262)
Their and their.

While I agree he spelled it wrong. Did you flex your muscles in a mirror at a holiday inn after correcting him?

PilotJ3 04-12-2014 08:00 PM



Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1622150)
Some type of news by the end of the month, perhaps sooner. You'll know it when you hear it. All is not as it seems.

They (management) had better do or say something quick. We're losing a lot of people in a short amount of time. I've gone up by 140 numbers in 2 months. At this rate, it's going to be a summer to remember.
Oh yeah, Im almost in the 1900. If we get some news and people starts applying this will get interesting.

fastsail 04-13-2014 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by samballs (Post 1622279)
While I agree he spelled it wrong. Did you flex your muscles in a mirror at a holiday inn after correcting him?

No I do not. I know this is just a forum, and guys sometimes post quickly. Using the proper word is important, however.

Maybe I am just old school? Carry on.

tom11011 04-13-2014 08:44 AM

With any luck American will fly these airplanes themselves thereby setting a new higher standard.

JT8D 04-13-2014 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by fastsail (Post 1622388)
No I do not. I know this is just a forum, and guys sometimes post quickly. Using the proper word is important, however.

Maybe I am just old school? Carry on.

Cassius? Is that you??


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