FFDO denial
04-02-2014, 07:10 PM
#31
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I started to explain something to you DENPilot. But decided not to. it may not be your background as you think, but I point towards something else. I'm not gna explain anything else publicly.
04-02-2014, 07:26 PM
#32
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Conversely, there are also PLENTY of civilians who have undergone as much firearms training as an Army Ranger.
So let's keep the hasty generalizations to a minimum, mmkay?
04-02-2014, 07:27 PM
#33
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Anyone with no prior military or law enforcement experience should automatically be rejected in my opinion. Too many needle d!cks signing up for a badge and a gun for the wrong reasons.
For what its worth, most of the FFDO's I know should never have been accepted into the program, and those that should were denied.
For what its worth, most of the FFDO's I know should never have been accepted into the program, and those that should were denied.
04-02-2014, 08:06 PM
#35
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Operationally that's ludicrous...you bring your own weapon or you don't go. You don't start an op on the premise that you're going to take a gun away from an armed LEO. You've been watching way too many Hollywood movies.
It is a very cheap and effective way to complicate bad-guy planning...it's a big unknown for them. This is anti-terrorism 101, nothing too hard or secret.
The TSA hates it for the same reason the active duty military services hate reserves, and regular cops hate part-time volunteer cops...job security.
It is a very cheap and effective way to complicate bad-guy planning...it's a big unknown for them. This is anti-terrorism 101, nothing too hard or secret.
The TSA hates it for the same reason the active duty military services hate reserves, and regular cops hate part-time volunteer cops...job security.
How to tell a PROFESSIONAL FFDO? You don't know he's an FFDO, that's how.
The rest are a liability.
Idiot, baffoon, ignorant, whatever.
Grow up!
04-02-2014, 10:03 PM
#36
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Wow, this spiraled down quickly. A few good posts that I got a good laugh out of.
I really don't get it, I was just trying to understand. The truth is that the TSA "screening" us for carrying a firearm in the flight deck, is completely ludicrous.
Every single one of has the ability to commit unimaginable acts without the use of a firearm. That's why this screening process is odd. Not saying to give any Joe Pilot a gun, but if someone is sincere in their intent, has the right attitude, and can safely pass a training course, I don't see the issue.
I really don't get it, I was just trying to understand. The truth is that the TSA "screening" us for carrying a firearm in the flight deck, is completely ludicrous.
Every single one of has the ability to commit unimaginable acts without the use of a firearm. That's why this screening process is odd. Not saying to give any Joe Pilot a gun, but if someone is sincere in their intent, has the right attitude, and can safely pass a training course, I don't see the issue.
04-03-2014, 03:38 AM
#38
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Wow, this spiraled down quickly. A few good posts that I got a good laugh out of.
I really don't get it, I was just trying to understand. The truth is that the TSA "screening" us for carrying a firearm in the flight deck, is completely ludicrous.
Every single one of has the ability to commit unimaginable acts without the use of a firearm. That's why this screening process is odd. Not saying to give any Joe Pilot a gun, but if someone is sincere in their intent, has the right attitude, and can safely pass a training course, I don't see the issue.
I really don't get it, I was just trying to understand. The truth is that the TSA "screening" us for carrying a firearm in the flight deck, is completely ludicrous.
Every single one of has the ability to commit unimaginable acts without the use of a firearm. That's why this screening process is odd. Not saying to give any Joe Pilot a gun, but if someone is sincere in their intent, has the right attitude, and can safely pass a training course, I don't see the issue.
Bad DEN, bad!
04-03-2014, 04:39 AM
#39
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When people sign up for FFDO they are taking on an enormous responsibility. I hope these pilots bear this in mind and keep themselves operational ready. The readiness that I am referring too comes with constant training the way the special forces do. I don't think most FFDO pilots do this and shouldn't continue to serve in that capacity. More federal air marshals that makes more sense.
04-03-2014, 04:47 AM
#40
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My experience with firearms has been limited to my law enforcement training and that's about it. I couldn't imagine someone/company taking on the liability of training civilians to those standards.
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