Spirit Airlines sees no pilot shortage

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04-03-2014 | 05:48 PM

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At which regional is year 2 higher than 38k? I didn't make 38k til year 3 at Eagle.

First, we are talking about estimated $36,500. Assuming you have a line by year 2 (many regionals right now), you'll get 33k pay with approximately 5k per diem.

04-03-2014 | 05:50 PM

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If no one wants to clean toilets and it forces employers to raise wages to attract toilet cleaners it doesn't necessarily mean there's a shortage of qualified toilet cleaners.

What's the pay?

04-03-2014 | 05:53 PM

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Whoever posted that yearly pay better brush up on basic math. It doesn't add up.

04-03-2014 | 05:57 PM

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Whoever posted that yearly pay better brush up on basic math. It doesn't add up.

Haha! I didn't even think about that. That's common core math for you!

04-03-2014 | 06:17 PM

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First, we are talking about estimated $36,500. Assuming you have a line by year 2 (many regionals right now), you'll get 33k pay with approximately 5k per diem.

Per diem is not income.

04-03-2014 | 06:57 PM

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Per diem is not income.

Tell a guy working at said convenience store that $500 per month tax-free isn't "income."

04-03-2014 | 06:57 PM

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At which regional is year 2 higher than 38k? I didn't make 38k til year 3 at Eagle.

I made 45 on second year at QX, before per diem.

04-03-2014 | 07:06 PM

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Tell a guy working at said convenience store that $500 per month tax-free isn't "income."

Do you ever buy food when you're at work? A phone charger? Batteries? Clothing items? Toiletries? A crashpad?

Do you have any of these things accessible in your home?

That's what per diem is. It's reimbursement in recognition of the fact that spending half of your life on the road costs money. Money that perhaps you wouldn't have to spend if you were home every night. It is "income," in the sense that it's money coming in. However, it's not what should be classified as "wages."

04-03-2014 | 07:23 PM

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First, per diem isn't for a crash pad. That's a ridiculous claim. Second, I bring almost all the food I need for a trip and only buy meals or food that I'd buy if I were at home. So, for me, per diem is "income" because it costs me exactly the same as it would to work in an office. When you have to pinch pennies, every penny matters. It's not fair to sit here and compare minimum wage jobs using only base pay as the yard stick. I've had the same argument with fellow veterans about them saying housing allowances can't be factored in when talking about compensation. If you want to really compare, you have to take all money in and all money out. A smart and thrifty person can pack for a trip so that financially it makes no difference that he/she isn't at home.

04-03-2014 | 08:29 PM

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So, for me, per diem is "income" because ..

I assume you pay income taxes on it then to the IRS? If you don't, it's not income - though you can call it whatever you want, just like you can call that huge refrigerator strapped onto your roll-aboard/shopping cart a 'travel cooler' rather than a embarrassing representation of how your employer values you no more than a entry-level worker in food service, aka a F/A.

There is no shortage of pilots. There will always be a shortage of qualified pilots.

If the total compensation package came up, more qualified pilots would come back into the market, rather than using their same skill-set to manage people in another industry.