Spirit Airlines sees no pilot shortage
04-04-2014 | 06:08 AM
#31
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You do need hazard pay at the gas station job though. I live in the metroplex. Not such a good gig working overnight at that location. At least at a regional they are robbing you with a pen, not an actual weapon.
04-04-2014 | 07:12 AM
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$538/week x 52 weeks a year is only $28,000 not $36,000. How many weeks a year would you be working to make the posted $36,000?
Even so
Pilot
Year Cost
01....Training $50k + $10k room and board (negative amount)
02....CFI $15,000 +/-
03....CFI $20,000 +/-
04....F/O $27,000 +/-
05....F/O $38,000 +/-
06....F/O $42,000 +/-
07....C/A $70,000 +/- (assuming 3 year upgrade)
08....C/A $75,000 +/-
-------------------------
$227,000 over 8 years net
Clerk at Convenience Store
01....$28,000
02....$28,000
03....$28,000
04....$28,000
05....$28,000
06....$28,000
07....$28,000
08....$28,000
-------------------------
$224,000 over 8 years net
Doesn't even include a 4 year degree cost. Throw that in and you're looking at over a decade just to break even. And that assumes a 3 year upgrade. Which in the past may, or may not (6+) happen. Really, really infuriating how the union negotiated pay gave the spoils to the CA's and left the FO's out to dry.
Even so
Pilot
Year Cost
01....Training $50k + $10k room and board (negative amount)
02....CFI $15,000 +/-
03....CFI $20,000 +/-
04....F/O $27,000 +/-
05....F/O $38,000 +/-
06....F/O $42,000 +/-
07....C/A $70,000 +/- (assuming 3 year upgrade)
08....C/A $75,000 +/-
-------------------------
$227,000 over 8 years net
Clerk at Convenience Store
01....$28,000
02....$28,000
03....$28,000
04....$28,000
05....$28,000
06....$28,000
07....$28,000
08....$28,000
-------------------------
$224,000 over 8 years net
Doesn't even include a 4 year degree cost. Throw that in and you're looking at over a decade just to break even. And that assumes a 3 year upgrade. Which in the past may, or may not (6+) happen. Really, really infuriating how the union negotiated pay gave the spoils to the CA's and left the FO's out to dry.
Yes, airline FOs should make more but this victim mentality is awful.
04-04-2014 | 07:17 AM
#34
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$538/week x 52 weeks a year is only $28,000 not $36,000. How many weeks a year would you be working to make the posted $36,000?
Even so
Pilot
Year Cost
01....Training $50k + $10k room and board (negative amount)
02....CFI $15,000 +/-
03....CFI $20,000 +/-
04....F/O $27,000 +/-
05....F/O $38,000 +/-
06....F/O $42,000 +/-
07....C/A $70,000 +/- (assuming 3 year upgrade)
08....C/A $75,000 +/-
-------------------------
$227,000 over 8 years net
Clerk at Convenience Store
01....$28,000
02....$28,000
03....$28,000
04....$28,000
05....$28,000
06....$28,000
07....$28,000
08....$28,000
-------------------------
$224,000 over 8 years net
Doesn't even include a 4 year degree cost. Throw that in and you're looking at over a decade just to break even. And that assumes a 3 year upgrade. Which in the past may, or may not (6+) happen. Really, really infuriating how the union negotiated pay gave the spoils to the CA's and left the FO's out to dry.
Even so
Pilot
Year Cost
01....Training $50k + $10k room and board (negative amount)
02....CFI $15,000 +/-
03....CFI $20,000 +/-
04....F/O $27,000 +/-
05....F/O $38,000 +/-
06....F/O $42,000 +/-
07....C/A $70,000 +/- (assuming 3 year upgrade)
08....C/A $75,000 +/-
-------------------------
$227,000 over 8 years net
Clerk at Convenience Store
01....$28,000
02....$28,000
03....$28,000
04....$28,000
05....$28,000
06....$28,000
07....$28,000
08....$28,000
-------------------------
$224,000 over 8 years net
Doesn't even include a 4 year degree cost. Throw that in and you're looking at over a decade just to break even. And that assumes a 3 year upgrade. Which in the past may, or may not (6+) happen. Really, really infuriating how the union negotiated pay gave the spoils to the CA's and left the FO's out to dry.
04-04-2014 | 07:55 AM
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80 hours a month billable x $15/hr is $1200 or $14,400. That was about what I did working part 61 and part 141 non-career places. I instructed at some busy airports too, Teterboro and Orlando Exec. Weather plays a role, especially in the NE during the winter. And in the South during the summer. Sometimes my entire day after 2pm was wiped due to storms. Yep, some will earn more but I bet the majority will make right around $15k-$18k a year. Nice thing is, earning that little, you pay almost no taxes.
04-04-2014 | 08:00 AM
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80 hours a month billable x $15/hr is $1200 bucks or $14,400. That was about what I did working part 61 and part 141 non-career places. I instructed at some busy airports too, Teterboro and Orlando Exec. Weather plays a role, especially in the NE during the winter. And in the South during the summer. Sometimes my entire day after 2pm was wiped due to storms. Yep, some will earn more but I bet the majority will make right around $15k-$18k a year. Nice thing is, earning that little, you pay almost no taxes.
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