Search
Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

RAH Vote..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-06-2014, 01:36 PM
  #61  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,648
Default

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
Easy. Something's better than nothing. $6000 signing bonus and a slight increase in pay. Time value of money. I'm glad you voted it down, but what happens now? 2 more years under current contract? It would have increases a lot of your pilots's paychecks. I'm surprised only 15 percent voted yes. I though pilots were more conservative than that as a whole.
Pay isn't everything, it sounds as though this would have reduced qol significantly.
Bzzt is offline  
Old 04-06-2014, 01:41 PM
  #62  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Admiral
Posts: 726
Default

Originally Posted by ClarenceOver View Post
The real question is how was it possible to get 15% to vote yes.

Their finger slipped.
Funny thing, one of my closest friends did just that...
Flyhayes is offline  
Old 04-06-2014, 05:12 PM
  #63  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: emb-145 ca
Posts: 212
Default

Originally Posted by FLYZERG View Post
The real question is how was it possible to get 15% to vote yes.
We had nearly the same at XJT. Here is my theory... 5% are brainwashed new hires who are just off probation. 5% are guys who know they are leaving asap and want a few extra dollars before leaving, and 5% are guys who are trapped and are never leaving the regional level and want negotiations to be over so they can get their few extra dollars. Add in a smattering of schoolhouse guys who hardly ever fly the line. There are your "YES" vote demographics. Very small groups of guys with slightly differing opinions, but voted in favor.
CaptainNameless is offline  
Old 04-06-2014, 05:37 PM
  #64  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: ERJ 170
Posts: 729
Default

Originally Posted by Flyhayes View Post
Originally Posted by ClarenceOver View Post
The real question is how was it possible to get 15% to vote yes.

Their finger slipped.
Funny thing, one of my closest friends did just that...
Your friend must be even dumber than he appears. He had every chance till the voting window closed to go back and change his vote. In fact, IBT ALD Team wanted pilots to go back and vote yes since Eagle was going to vote yes to their agreement.
magnus0322 is offline  
Old 04-06-2014, 06:17 PM
  #65  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Admiral
Posts: 726
Default

Actually he has a striking resemblance to Dilbert, so I'm not sure that's possible.... I'm sure he changed his vote, it's been a while since I last spoke to him. He might not be the brightest crayola in the box, but I'd like to think he's smarter than that.
Flyhayes is offline  
Old 04-07-2014, 07:14 AM
  #66  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: FO
Posts: 525
Default

Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 View Post
We proudly don't have "junior manning". They will brag about it at your interview.

But we really do. It's called "reassignment"! Enjoy.
Not defending this company for what they do, but a REA here isn't really a jr man. Jr manning is making you work on your days off. Different carriers do this diff ways, a lot of times its basically if your dumb enough to pick up the phone on your day off your fair game.

They call me a lot for OT on my days off, I usually say no if I even pick up. But they can't force me...

Per our CBA they can't make you work into a day off at all. The worst they can do is REA you is 2 hour later than your originally scheduled finish time on the last day of your trip. On the middle days of a trip, they can REA to they're hearts content up to the Pt 117 limits.

Remember though, you can always call fatigued, I hope this clears things up a bit.

There are plenty of issue working here, thank God this isn't one of them.
HVYMETALDRVR is offline  
Old 04-07-2014, 09:24 AM
  #67  
Seat 0B
 
JetDoc's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: 777 FO
Posts: 791
Default

Originally Posted by Bzzt View Post
Are you referring to reserve pilots being packed and ready for 6 days or all pilots? Were they planning on unlimited junior mans?
Sorry I wasn't more clear, if you are on reserve at the airport they wanted you to be packed for up to six days on the road...
JetDoc is offline  
Old 04-07-2014, 10:13 AM
  #68  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: ERJ 170
Posts: 729
Default

Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR View Post
Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 View Post
We proudly don't have "junior manning". They will brag about it at your interview.

But we really do. It's called "reassignment"! Enjoy.
Not defending this company for what they do, but a REA here isn't really a jr man. Jr manning is making you work on your days off. Different carriers do this diff ways, a lot of times its basically if your dumb enough to pick up the phone on your day off your fair game.

They call me a lot for OT on my days off, I usually say no if I even pick up. But they can't force me...

Per our CBA they can't make you work into a day off at all. The worst they can do is REA you is 2 hour later than your originally scheduled finish time on the last day of your trip. On the middle days of a trip, they can REA to they're hearts content up to the Pt 117 limits.

Remember though, you can always call fatigued, I hope this clears things up a bit.

There are plenty of issue working here, thank God this isn't one of them.
Lol. Seriously dude? ***. You must not have had the pleasure yet of being stuck somewhere yet. Someday in the very near future, and mark my words, you will be "junior manned". Our contract says you cannot leave the plane at the outstation. One day you'll be fortunate enough to get cancelled on your last leg back to base. You will get the enjoyment of not only losing the pay for that lost leg, but now working on your day off to fly it back to the "hub". And as an even topped out FO you will receive $144 and change for it. Enjoy.
magnus0322 is offline  
Old 04-07-2014, 10:29 AM
  #69  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,152
Default

Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR View Post
Not defending this company for what they do, but a REA here isn't really a jr man. Jr manning is making you work on your days off. Different carriers do this diff ways, a lot of times its basically if your dumb enough to pick up the phone on your day off your fair game.

They call me a lot for OT on my days off, I usually say no if I even pick up. But they can't force me...

Per our CBA they can't make you work into a day off at all. The worst they can do is REA you is 2 hour later than your originally scheduled finish time on the last day of your trip. On the middle days of a trip, they can REA to they're hearts content up to the Pt 117 limits.

Remember though, you can always call fatigued, I hope this clears things up a bit.

There are plenty of issue working here, thank God this isn't one of them.
You couldn't be more wrong but that is a common misbelief here. Junior manning at other carriers isn't just being required to work on your day(s) off.

I think this belief is from not having to had worked at other carriers under different contracts.

Additionally other carriers do not have unlimited reassignment ability, ESPECIALLY without ANY premium pay being involved.

But some love trying to put lipstick on a greasy pig!!
Geardownflaps30 is offline  
Old 04-07-2014, 10:46 AM
  #70  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: ERJ 170
Posts: 729
Default

Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 View Post
Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR View Post
Not defending this company for what they do, but a REA here isn't really a jr man. Jr manning is making you work on your days off. Different carriers do this diff ways, a lot of times its basically if your dumb enough to pick up the phone on your day off your fair game.

They call me a lot for OT on my days off, I usually say no if I even pick up. But they can't force me...

Per our CBA they can't make you work into a day off at all. The worst they can do is REA you is 2 hour later than your originally scheduled finish time on the last day of your trip. On the middle days of a trip, they can REA to they're hearts content up to the Pt 117 limits.

Remember though, you can always call fatigued, I hope this clears things up a bit.

There are plenty of issue working here, thank God this isn't one of them.
You couldn't be more wrong but that is a common misbelief here. Junior manning at other carriers isn't just being required to work on your day(s) off.

I think this belief is from not having to had worked at other carriers under different contracts.

Additionally other carriers do not have unlimited reassignment ability, ESPECIALLY without ANY premium pay being involved.

But some love trying to put lipstick on a greasy pig!!
He's just an IND yes voter
magnus0322 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TillerEnvy
Major
112
09-14-2014 07:31 AM
Helperto EL
Regional
15
12-23-2012 05:05 AM
CAL EWR
Union Talk
8
11-08-2008 02:37 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices