Originally Posted by longhauler (Post 1617429)

Delta CRJ 900 rates Jan 1, 2014
FO CA
yr 1 68.08 124.26
yr 2 68.08 125.19
yr 3 78.38 126.22
yr 4 80.29 127.24
….
yr 12 92.44 135.36

Originally Posted by captain152 (Post 1617443)

Thanks! It's insane to see those numbers compared to what we're making now.

Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1617358)

DAL (and theIt's all going according to the plan DAL and ALPA crafted. When regional pay rises to that level the advantage of outsourcing is gone. others, but especially DAL since they've positioned themselves to take advantage of it) will eliminate most RJ flying, taking the CRJ9s and E175s they own to be flown by mainline at the current pay rates in the current DAL PWA. Notice how ALPA is suddenly claiming there's no pilot shortage, it's a pay problem? How convenient.

The skeleton of the regionals will return to the 90s "commuter" airline days code sharing and at risk flying. Endeavor and Envoy will cease to exist. RAH will move toward UAL and AA until they follow suit. Silver and Great Lakes are well positioned for growth in picking up dropped CRJ routes to small cities. SkyWest and its subsidiaries will most likely use their remaining CRJ200s and 700s for at risk flying and use their large airplanes to start a stand alone airline.

It's all going according to the plan...

Originally Posted by bedrock (Post 1617410)

Is there a medium point for regional pay? Somewhere that is higher than now, but still less than mainline and will still make it worthwhile for mainline to outsource. I think they will try that, rather than bring it in house. They have become addicted to cheap feed and that labor flexibility (ie. whipsaw). They don't need to raise captain's pay at the regionals, just FO pay, but the union decides how any pay raise is apportioned betw. FO's and CA's. That is one reason we are seeing all these hiring bonuses. What if they start offering a 10K bonus for every new hire for each yr. completed up to yr. 4? They could easily revoke the bonus whenever they want too.

Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1617358)

The skeleton of the regionals will return to the 90s "commuter" airline days code sharing and at risk flying. Endeavor and Envoy will cease to exist. RAH will move toward UAL and AA until they follow suit. Silver and Great Lakes are well positioned for growth in picking up dropped CRJ routes to small cities. SkyWest and its subsidiaries will most likely use their remaining CRJ200s and 700s for at risk flying and use their large airplanes to start a stand alone airline.

It's all going according to the plan...

Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 1617471)

This is the big misnomer. Regional airlines are not "cheap feeds" for the majors... Once you pass through fuel, pay for Managment, Scheduling, corporate offices, a little something for shareholders and some corporate profit ( if applicable) I really don't think we are all that much "cheaper".. just something for the legacy guys to use at the negotiation table... pilots are easy to distract to $/hr... but moving people is MUCH more than pilot salaries.

Originally Posted by bedrock (Post 1617410)

What if they start offering a 10K bonus for every new hire for each yr. completed up to yr. 4? They could easily revoke the bonus whenever they want too.