Lowly "regional FO" wife's response to HotMama
12-27-2006 | 07:46 PM
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Nice try HMP, but you came up a bit short of answering the question. The question was, "how is it my fault that the unions of legacy carriers gave up the farm on scope while I was in high school/college." Until you answer that, I just can't respect your opinion. It is not my fault they voted on crappy contracts. RJ's SHOULD be flown by the majors, I believe even the 50's should, but your generation wouldn't let that happen. Stop blaming us. Bottom line here is, I'm doing exactly what is necessary to get the experience to fly at a major. Unfortunately because of reasons outside my control, I'm building my experience in a CRJ. If I limited my job search to airlines that fly ONLY props, my selection would've been extremely limited. Anyway I still wait for a legitimate response as to how I was supposed to affect the scope clauses at majors.
12-27-2006 | 07:53 PM
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The wife again. 
N6724m Amen! You beat me to it. This whole "y'all are made for it, I'm not" crap is just that; BS. Secretly sexist men use that as an excuse to not have to dig in and DEAL with crying children, difficult situations and frustrating family dynamics. Hey, I am clearly a big fan of men and the only major feminist ideal I hold to be 100% true is that women are equally good at many (note that I didn't say ALL) things men are. That said, I do believe that men in general tend to turn to cop outs such as those of C750, which at first glance come across as soooo big of them; to admit their "flaws" or biological "shortcomings". It is much harder and take a great deal more courage to fight against those biological "challenges" and overcome them than it does to admit them while shrugging your shoulders in acceptance. Women did it fifty years ago. Men can do it too.
Hey, it drives me nuts to hear my child screaming nonstop as well. The difference is that I don't give up. I CAN'T give up and that is the difference between you and I, C750. Considering what my husband does, I often don't have someone around to turn my child over to that can help quiet him or her down. If I want some peace and quiet I have to find a way to accomplish that - as would you if your arms were the only ones around to quiet the little ones. It is amazing what one can do when left with few choices.
Or wait ... maybe women should use the same excuse and say that we are not "instinctually" equipped to assist the family financially, to pay or manage bills or to helplessly cry whenever we need to dig into a historically "male task"? I'd like to see the state of the world if women gave up as easily as SOME of our male counterparts. ;-)
As for HMP; just roll over and play dead. It'll save you face if nothing else. You're pretty overpowered and out smarted in here.
N6724m Amen! You beat me to it. This whole "y'all are made for it, I'm not" crap is just that; BS. Secretly sexist men use that as an excuse to not have to dig in and DEAL with crying children, difficult situations and frustrating family dynamics. Hey, I am clearly a big fan of men and the only major feminist ideal I hold to be 100% true is that women are equally good at many (note that I didn't say ALL) things men are. That said, I do believe that men in general tend to turn to cop outs such as those of C750, which at first glance come across as soooo big of them; to admit their "flaws" or biological "shortcomings". It is much harder and take a great deal more courage to fight against those biological "challenges" and overcome them than it does to admit them while shrugging your shoulders in acceptance. Women did it fifty years ago. Men can do it too.
Hey, it drives me nuts to hear my child screaming nonstop as well. The difference is that I don't give up. I CAN'T give up and that is the difference between you and I, C750. Considering what my husband does, I often don't have someone around to turn my child over to that can help quiet him or her down. If I want some peace and quiet I have to find a way to accomplish that - as would you if your arms were the only ones around to quiet the little ones. It is amazing what one can do when left with few choices.
Or wait ... maybe women should use the same excuse and say that we are not "instinctually" equipped to assist the family financially, to pay or manage bills or to helplessly cry whenever we need to dig into a historically "male task"? I'd like to see the state of the world if women gave up as easily as SOME of our male counterparts. ;-)
As for HMP; just roll over and play dead. It'll save you face if nothing else. You're pretty overpowered and out smarted in here.
I like this gal. I also wonder if HMP is really a female.
12-27-2006 | 07:55 PM
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If ALPA had put out a notice that by flying RJ's, I was hurting the collective bargaining process at majors, I would've for sure turned the job down. I did in fact turn down a job flying the CRJ-700 for GoJets when they flipped my TSA class into a GoJets class for that very reason. Accepting a job with GoJets would've hurt the life of pilots. In fact, I eventually did get furloughed at TSA, because there weren't enough people like me willing to turn down a jet job, because it was the right thing to do for everyone. I wasn't just looking out for me, if I had been, I would've taken the job, along with the awesome seniority that would've came with it. However not once, since entering this industry, have I seen ALPA/teamsters or any other union try and organize the pilots to turn down all RJ jobs for the purpose of raising scope. If they did that, I would certainly not be flying the jet I'm in. But since that isn't going on, it would be stupid of me to turn down the QOL/pay/experience I am currently getting.
12-27-2006 | 07:56 PM
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12-27-2006 | 08:07 PM
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HMP, you're acting like a boil on the butt of humanity, especially female humanity. I've been watching your comments since you joined this forum, and I've kept my mouth shut until now. Your posts are often insulting, inflammatory, and not at all friendly. I could give a rat's a$$ that you are a 767 pilot - BFD!!! And then you go and say that you are not a fan of chick pilots. Well, I'm sure that there are many female pilots better than you. Do you need to get laid or something? Do you think that you're going to score brownie points with the guys by insulting other female pilots? What is your MO here? Does it make you feel superior to insult regional pilots as well as females? Are you really a Mama of children, or do you just call yourself a HotMama?
12-27-2006 | 08:41 PM
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Oh boy....your arrogance and ignorance is astounding! What makes Eagle a "real" regional? Because they are owned by the parent? Where I come from thats called a child...or a bit@$
12-27-2006 | 08:43 PM
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12-27-2006 | 08:47 PM
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12-27-2006 | 09:27 PM
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HMP, you're acting like a boil on the butt of humanity, especially female humanity. I've been watching your comments since you joined this forum, and I've kept my mouth shut until now. Your posts are often insulting, inflammatory, and not at all friendly. I could give a rat's a$$ that you are a 767 pilot - BFD!!! And then you go and say that you are not a fan of chick pilots. Well, I'm sure that there are many female pilots better than you. Do you need to get laid or something? Do you think that you're going to score brownie points with the guys by insulting other female pilots? What is your MO here? Does it make you feel superior to insult regional pilots as well as females? Are you really a Mama of children, or do you just call yourself a HotMama?
Amen sista, Amen!
