The money isnt there anymore.....
05-26-2014, 07:17 AM
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Pilots are stupid - they ASSUME the 18 yr pay scale - a leftover from Lorenzo - should be status quo.
Your own greed for a few dollars more has made you a target for elimination by new entrants.
Can anyone explain the difference in duties a 1st yr CA has that an 18 yr CA does not?
I would wager the qol for the 1st yr guy is not on par with the senior CA either but is paid much less.
We need to be screaming to our decadent and bloated "Association" to get some brain power in leadership before we are all casualties for their unwillingness to do their jobs.
As for the OP - mgmt. at the legacies had to reinvent the industry to obtain profitability - that is what they do. Last decade you could make the same argument on that level as well. Now it's time for the regionals to cut the fat and actually learn how to manage.
Your own greed for a few dollars more has made you a target for elimination by new entrants.
Can anyone explain the difference in duties a 1st yr CA has that an 18 yr CA does not?
I would wager the qol for the 1st yr guy is not on par with the senior CA either but is paid much less.
We need to be screaming to our decadent and bloated "Association" to get some brain power in leadership before we are all casualties for their unwillingness to do their jobs.
As for the OP - mgmt. at the legacies had to reinvent the industry to obtain profitability - that is what they do. Last decade you could make the same argument on that level as well. Now it's time for the regionals to cut the fat and actually learn how to manage.
05-26-2014, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoiler
As for the OP - mgmt. at the legacies had to reinvent the industry to obtain profitability - that is what they do. Last decade you could make the same argument on that level as well. Now it's time for the regionals to cut the fat and actually learn how to manage.
05-26-2014, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoiler
Pilots are stupid - they ASSUME the 18 yr pay scale - a leftover from Lorenzo - should be status quo.
Your own greed for a few dollars more has made you a target for elimination by new entrants.
Can anyone explain the difference in duties a 1st yr CA has that an 18 yr CA does not?
I would wager the qol for the 1st yr guy is not on par with the senior CA either but is paid much less.
We need to be screaming to our decadent and bloated "Association" to get some brain power in leadership before we are all casualties for their unwillingness to do their jobs.
As for the OP - mgmt. at the legacies had to reinvent the industry to obtain profitability - that is what they do. Last decade you could make the same argument on that level as well. Now it's time for the regionals to cut the fat and actually learn how to manage.
Your own greed for a few dollars more has made you a target for elimination by new entrants.
Can anyone explain the difference in duties a 1st yr CA has that an 18 yr CA does not?
I would wager the qol for the 1st yr guy is not on par with the senior CA either but is paid much less.
We need to be screaming to our decadent and bloated "Association" to get some brain power in leadership before we are all casualties for their unwillingness to do their jobs.
As for the OP - mgmt. at the legacies had to reinvent the industry to obtain profitability - that is what they do. Last decade you could make the same argument on that level as well. Now it's time for the regionals to cut the fat and actually learn how to manage.
The regionals are run with a "bare bones" mentality... Name one that has fat to cut, other than in the management ranks.
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05-26-2014, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
The regionals are run with a "bare bones" mentality... Name one that has fat to cut, other than in the management ranks.
05-26-2014, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jefferson
What has happened to the Regional business is that the cost gap has closed. In the last 9 years, fuel cost, maintenance cost, and the cost of a maturing pilot group has raised the cost of operating the feeds. That cost difference...between Legacy and Regional used to be the money that was available to pay for Regional airline management (buildings, salaries, insurance, etc,). and leave a little bit left over for the shareholders. Now, with that gap closed, it becomes a question of "Why pay for all of the duplicity?". Legacy carriers already have scheduling, maintenance, HR, insurance, training departments. It really looks to me like time has come for those to go...
The up side of this for the pilots is that there aren't enough. The airplanes still have to move, but the don't have to say "operated by" on the sides...
The up side of this for the pilots is that there aren't enough. The airplanes still have to move, but the don't have to say "operated by" on the sides...
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