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Mesabah 06-19-2014 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1667843)
They don't support the RLA. They simply don't have a prayer of getting it changed without a hundredfold increase in PAC money. They did float a trial ballon and attempted to have FedEx removed from the RLA. Never even got out of committee let alone to either floor for a vote. Fred Smith and the ATA pulled out all the stops including canceling every Boeing aircraft he had on order if it were passed.

PAC money, is that why there is an almost $400,000 pay difference between the highest paid, and lowest paid ALPA pilot? What other industry has that kind of disparity between workers who do the exact same job?

TonyC 06-19-2014 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1667918)

People have paid for a service and not gotten their return for investment. This tends to make rational people angry.


Sure, I get the anti-ALPA bias of APC "management". Silly me, I had confidence that truth would triumph over emotion. Let the rants continue, fairness be damned.


I know I can count on Moderators to correct my spelling errors. :rolleyes:







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80ktsClamp 06-19-2014 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1667955)
Sure, I get the anti-ALPA bias of APC "management". Silly me, I had confidence that truth would triumph over emotion. Let the rants continue, fairness be damned.


I know I can count on Moderators to correct my spelling errors. :rolleyes:







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One of the moderators is an ALPA rep, and at least 2 others including myself stay quite involved. So yeah... a little misguided you are.

TonyC 06-19-2014 11:50 AM

Then you won't mind telling me how my deleted post violated the Terms of Service.






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pagey 06-19-2014 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1667960)
Then you won't mind telling me how my deleted post violated the Terms of Service.






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Eh, I've had posts deleted because I was talking about a different airline than the thread titled airline.....It of course had nothing to do with the fact that the mod in question worked for said airline.:rolleyes:

You won't get a good answer as the mods are omnipotent here. Which is their right I suppose. If we don't like it we can take our opinions elsewhere.

tom11011 06-19-2014 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by GlobeTreker (Post 1667313)
There should be no $23 an jobs at airlines anyway.

I had an FO recently whom I was humbled by. He was an amazing pilot with an unfortunate career. He flew for several big named carriers who went under over the years. It was a real pleasure to fly with him. I was angered though at the fact someone with more experience in aviation than most of my other FO's have been alive, was making so little money. He is worth so much more. To be lumped in with a bunch of recent Riddle grads when it comes to pay is an insult to his experience.

Why so many of you thick headed morons are against longevity recognition is beyond me. When I explain to friends outside the industry how our pay system works, they think we are insane. They are right. So many of you buy into the "that's the way it's always been" mentality. People who think like that are the problem. Most of us will be in the position of starting over at some point. How about getting in line with other union labor pay practices already.

Why can't you use your powers for good instead of evil? :D

Seriously, be the change you want to see.

80ktsClamp 06-19-2014 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1667960)
Then you won't mind telling me how my deleted post violated the Terms of Service.






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Had you violated the TOS, you would have gotten an infraction or a reminder. Posts associated with TOS violating posts are removed to try to get things back on track. Yours was the latter.

TonyC 06-19-2014 12:03 PM

I violated no rule.

You deleted my post.

Got it.



The OP, disparaging ALPA, had his post edited to make him look more intelligent and informed than he really is.


Got it.




No bias.

None.

Zero.

Nada.






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vagabond 06-19-2014 12:40 PM

Thanks ALPA for being a miserable failure
 
Ok everybody knock it off and start over. All this hubbub and I forget what the thread is all about.

I'm on the bus home. What's more alarming than another APC thread going sideways is the guy sitting next to me. He's creepy looking and probably has less than honorable intentions!

sailingfun 06-19-2014 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1667943)
PAC money, is that why there is an almost $400,000 pay difference between the highest paid, and lowest paid ALPA pilot? What other industry has that kind of disparity between workers who do the exact same job?

Doctors, lawyers, managements, Ceo's ect..


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