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Mesabah 06-19-2014 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1668019)
Doctors, lawyers, managements, Ceo's ect..

None of those examples are people who would be on a seniority list, try again.

jungle 06-19-2014 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1667972)
I violated no rule.

You deleted my post.

Got it.



The OP, disparaging ALPA, had his post edited to make him look more intelligent and informed than he really is.


Got it.




No bias.

None.

Zero.

Nada.






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Well, at least some get to see the true extent of their dues here, an angry old man barking at the moon times however many HQ can afford. Thanks for that display.

ChipChelios 06-19-2014 05:56 PM

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BaronRouge380 06-19-2014 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1667299)
Exactly. There's only one guy to blame, the man in the mirror, for taking a $23 an hour job at a regional when you can make $55 an hour other places.

What airline would hire an entry level 1500 h pilot for $55/hour?
I will apply immediately!

johnso29 06-20-2014 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by GlobeTreker (Post 1667431)
With our present seniority system and the pay scales ALPA helped negotiate, ALPA has been the problem. I feel we would be better served with no union at all. Since that isn't likely, the next best thing would be creating career portability. That would empower all of us and put pressure on the airlines to compete for our services.

First off, ALPA doesn't own company seniority lists. The companies do. So how will ALPA merge seniority lists that ALPA doesn't control?

Second, don't blame only ALPA for the pay rates at the regionals when pilot groups like GoJet, RAH, etc are represented by Teamsters and have done near jack squat to help raise the bar.

It's not as simple as just creating one list.

80ktsClamp 06-20-2014 11:43 AM

Spot on, johnso. This is all just an emotional outburst over things he can't control and doesn't even come close to understanding.

TonyC 06-20-2014 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1668047)

Well, at least some get to see the true extent of their dues here, an angry old man barking at the moon times however many HQ can afford. Thanks for that display.


Oh, how sweet. Between this and 80ktsClamp telling me to put my ovaries away, I'm not sure which of you loves me more. ;)






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Spoiler 06-20-2014 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by BaronRouge380 (Post 1668294)
What airline would hire an entry level 1500 h pilot for $55/hour?
I will apply immediately!

Yeah cuz that's just a lot of money right there.
Technical degrees fresh out of college starting 60 and above with virtually no skills and NOT saddled with 100K plus debt.
Oh the Humanity!

Mesabah 06-20-2014 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1668672)
First off, ALPA doesn't own company seniority lists. The companies do. So how will ALPA merge seniority lists that ALPA doesn't control?

Second, don't blame only ALPA for the pay rates at the regionals when pilot groups like GoJet, RAH, etc are represented by Teamsters and have done near jack squat to help raise the bar.

It's not as simple as just creating one list.

I don't blame ALPA for my pay rates, I blame ALPA for the paint job on the side of my aircraft. Why does it say Delta, and not Endeavor?

sailingfun 06-20-2014 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1668732)
I don't blame ALPA for my pay rates, I blame ALPA for the paint job on the side of my aircraft. Why does it say Delta, and not Endeavor?

Have you asked your management?


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