Please also explain the condition of the Soviet-era planes in Russia that will surely show up here if FoC becomes standard practice.

 

Quit back-peddling and present your case. Don't be one of those guys who changes their tactics to personal attacks when they can't support their argument.

 

You just made that up. It did not happen like that.

 

You have no skin the game, why would I waste my time on you.

As for "my case" (whatever that means) everything I've mentioned is easily available for those who want to read a little history. As for a personal attack, are you not an ERAU grad who works in IT and is not a working airline pilot or not?

 

I think both sides make valid points here but its pretty ironic to see a bunch of mainline guys railing against this but be perfectly ok with the much bigger scam known as the regional whipsaw. I certainly don't supprt what NAI is trying to accomplish, but I can certainly can understand someone's reason for supporting it.
NAI must be defeated, and when it is we need to focus our energy on defeating the regional whipsaw. The real downward pressure on wages are the regional airlines masquerading as Delta Connection, United Express, and American Eagle, who now do approximately 50% of the domestic flying.
We are not entitled to mainline jobs, we've just been doing the job flying delta passengers in the same weather same airspace same airports, same same same for FAR LESS PAY. But dbags like MEmbrain have the nerve to say things like it has to be earned. We have earned it, we prove it everyday by flying YOUR passengers. Tell that to the 20 year Comair guy whose been forced to start over at the bottom of some other ****ball regional. We all want to earn our jobs at mainline, but stop telling guys who've been in the regionals for a decade or more after being whipsawed they've got to earn it. We get it. We need to pass an interview like everyone else, but stop acting like we don't do the exact same job.
I think congress should be addressing the issue of subcontractors impersonating real airlines. Should be illegal. If Delta sells tickets on a Delta flight, it should be flown on a Delta plane by Delta pilots period. Take the flying back!

 

Since 2007, I own a small IT company with employees.

 

Of course not just like that, I used a little creative licensing. However it was agreed that there would be a B scale that benefited those at the top at the expense of those at the bottom.

I think there is 2 ways to look at this.

1.) On one hand it could be argued this B scale is a dues paying investment. If you are fortunate enough to make it out of the regionals, your reward awaits you. But until that time, you are not a member of the club yet. If you languish too long at the regional, management wants you out on the street after a period of time because you cost too much.

2.) On the other hand, it could be argued that regional airlines should stand alone, with better pay, benefit, and qol at the expense of those at the top, a flattening of pay scales to give those at the bottom a little more to bring them out of poverty. This model gives a future to lifers.

I think if you believe in ALPA, method 1 suites you. But if you believe in the latter, maybe a separate regional airline union is the way to go.

 

I love how people say a major job is earned, implying that a regional job is not. As if I could take a homeless guy off the street, and put him in a regional jet, while NASA astronauts need to be screened for undesirables if you put one more seat on an RJ.

The argument is really about pay; Major airline pilots want the stuff that outsourcing provides them.

 

Let me get this straight.

The OP started flying post 9/11 and probably only had to have 250-500 hours to get a regional job. Didn't have to have the 1200/200 or 1500/300 that was required prior to 9/11 or live through that stagnation and now your mad that you haven't made more money or made it to the majors?

Why don't you just admit you failed to investigate the industry and what you could expect instead of blaming others or looking for a quick fix.

 

It’s not horsesh*t, a friend of mine loaded barges and ships for a top oil company, he always talked about the degenerates that worked those decks, constantly smelled like booze, stumbling around drunk, they would never have anybody that spoke English. They showed up with ships that were so rusty he could see through them. He refused to load several times due to the shape the equipment was in. The flag of convenience all started because of American shipping punitive liability cost, so the remedy is now if the ship leaks just don’t report it, IF it washes up on shore they’d never know who to blame. If they do catch us, O well surrender the ship and start over, good thing it’s registered in Liberia, less liability.



How would you feel about flying equipment so terrible that the FBO refused to fuel you, and you had to cancel the flight? Then the FBO would make the FSDO show up to do an airworthiness inspection so they could load you? Talk to the Coast Guard happens all the time with shipping. Have you ever flown a plane that was registered in Liberia and maintained under their law? What about a Liberian approved repair to the wing spar?