Jumpseat Etiquette Question
#21
Bzzzzzt! HUGE foul.
Your airline contract may vary, but there a so many reasons why this is a bad idea. Just a few:
1. You have a contractual right to a positive space seat for company directed DH. Enough people settle for a JS and now you're having to justify why you need it when it's time to negotiate your next contract.
2. You end up screwing a commuter out of the JS. You don't know how many people the gate agent turns away after you take it or you're already down in the cockpit.
3. You take it, give up your seat to a revenue passenger, they board the jet and a last minute pilot senior to you bumps you off the JS. You think the gate agent is going to kick the pax out of your seat without a fight? Maybe you get to talk to a CP about why you didn't get where the company wanted you IAW your pairing. At the very least you've got one POed pax if you do get your seat back. Or maybe you end up sitting around the terminal waiting on the next flight to your destination.
This was probably the second thing everyone was taught about jumpseating (behind asking the Captain for the privilege and saying "thank you" when you block in).
Your airline contract may vary, but there a so many reasons why this is a bad idea. Just a few:
1. You have a contractual right to a positive space seat for company directed DH. Enough people settle for a JS and now you're having to justify why you need it when it's time to negotiate your next contract.
2. You end up screwing a commuter out of the JS. You don't know how many people the gate agent turns away after you take it or you're already down in the cockpit.
3. You take it, give up your seat to a revenue passenger, they board the jet and a last minute pilot senior to you bumps you off the JS. You think the gate agent is going to kick the pax out of your seat without a fight? Maybe you get to talk to a CP about why you didn't get where the company wanted you IAW your pairing. At the very least you've got one POed pax if you do get your seat back. Or maybe you end up sitting around the terminal waiting on the next flight to your destination.
This was probably the second thing everyone was taught about jumpseating (behind asking the Captain for the privilege and saying "thank you" when you block in).
The only times I've done it, I've ensured there are no other pilots wanting the jumpseat, and I won't take it until the absolute last minute to make way for any commuters. The agents are made well aware of the deal. Also, at my airline, jumpseat is not seniority based (don't even get me started on seniority based jumpseats... how freaking stupid).
I've only done this maybe 2 times in 10 years.
#22
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It's always a no for me. If I have positive space, I am sitting in my seat. Taking jumpseat is too complicated to ensure my seat is not used for revenue and to ensure I didn't screw anyone. Trust me agent will screw walk up jumpseater. Once you give up your seat, there's no going back. I have been screwed by pilots doing this on a couple occasions. Most of them probably didn't even know I was there, a female from United did and screwed me with a smile on her face while wearing blue jeans.
I'm hesitant to commit to a flight attendant jumpseat for the same reasons. I always tell agent when they ask me to switch from pilot to FA jumpseat to get another pilot on that my answer is to keep me in the pilot jumpseat for now and we'll talk about it closer to door close. I commute out of a heavily commuted city though where there's a flight every hour so there's always last minute walk-ups.
I'm hesitant to commit to a flight attendant jumpseat for the same reasons. I always tell agent when they ask me to switch from pilot to FA jumpseat to get another pilot on that my answer is to keep me in the pilot jumpseat for now and we'll talk about it closer to door close. I commute out of a heavily commuted city though where there's a flight every hour so there's always last minute walk-ups.
#23
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It's always a no for me. If I have positive space, I am sitting in my seat. Taking jumpseat is too complicated to ensure my seat is not used for revenue and to ensure I didn't screw anyone. Trust me agent will screw walk up jumpseater. Once you give up your seat, there's no going back. I have been screwed by pilots doing this on a couple occasions. Most of them probably didn't even know I was there, a female from United did and screwed me with a smile on her face while wearing blue jeans.
I'm hesitant to commit to a flight attendant jumpseat for the same reasons. I always tell agent when they ask me to switch from pilot to FA jumpseat to get another pilot on that my answer is to keep me in the pilot jumpseat for now and we'll talk about it closer to door close. I commute out of a heavily commuted city though where there's a flight every hour so there's always last minute walk-ups.
I'm hesitant to commit to a flight attendant jumpseat for the same reasons. I always tell agent when they ask me to switch from pilot to FA jumpseat to get another pilot on that my answer is to keep me in the pilot jumpseat for now and we'll talk about it closer to door close. I commute out of a heavily commuted city though where there's a flight every hour so there's always last minute walk-ups.
#25
I'm hesitant to commit to a flight attendant jumpseat for the same reasons. I always tell agent when they ask me to switch from pilot to FA jumpseat to get another pilot on that my answer is to keep me in the pilot jumpseat for now and we'll talk about it closer to door close. I commute out of a heavily commuted city though where there's a flight every hour so there's always last minute walk-ups.
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