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I get the union members stick together mentality but I don't understand why people would turn away applicants who want to join their pro-union company.
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Make sure you tell the Capt. on the interview panel that he has no say. All it takes is a down check and it's on to the next guy/gal. Plenty of applicants for every slot, in the coming years unity in the ranks will be necessary for maximum gains and SKYW guys will be the big question mark, except for the numerous organizing committee members. But keep telling yourself it makes no diff.
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The issue is that management hires and fires not to mention controls the seniority lists.
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The EEOC may be another reason why. What should happen is that all hiring into the majors should be done through the regionals. To have allowed others to get a head start directly hired to mainline avoiding the low pay and less benefits at regionals has only helped perpetuate the food stamp welfare wages and whipsawing.
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
This is a step in the right direction but I'm a bit unclear in what this will accomplish? They're inviting us to a united pep rally??
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to make hiring decisions based on union status or activity. Most people think that protects union members but it also works the other way. So majors cannot make union membership or lack thereof a hiring criteria. So pep rally is the best they can do.
A flow through would be ok but then they lose their ability to be selective. A national seniority list would work too, but that's a pipe dream.
Originally Posted by minimwage4
This is a step in the right direction but I'm a bit unclear in what this will accomplish? They're inviting us to a united pep rally??
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to make hiring decisions based on union status or activity. Most people think that protects union members but it also works the other way. So majors cannot make union membership or lack thereof a hiring criteria. So pep rally is the best they can do.
A flow through would be ok but then they lose their ability to be selective. A national seniority list would work too, but that's a pipe dream.
Republic, Eagle. PSA all have unions. How has that been beneficial to them? What regional carrier has a union that has been able to produce results in the form of compensation, benefits, duty time, trip rigs, days off, etc? This is not a rhetorical question. If there is such a union out there, then perhaps it should be the model for the regional airlines. ALPA certainly does not seem interested in looking out for the "little" guys.
Last edited by Nevets; 07-02-2014 at 07:18 AM.
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Do you honestly think that Eagle, PSA, Mesa and republic would have been better of non-union and at the whim of their managements? This is what a lot of anti-union people miss. It's not just the gains. It also mitigating the loses when times are not good.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it could be any worse....management seemed to do mostly what they wanted even though a union was in place and when they couldn't they totally f@cked their pilots over. Where was the benefit?
My point, if I were to have one, is that ALPA is a Major airline union and I am curious if you were to ask the pilots who lost their pensions a few years ago how they felt about their union, what kind of response you'd get.
I am neither pro nor anti-union. I honestly do not believe the current representation at the majority of regionals (Compass seems solid) is funcitonal (has teeth).
I don't think it could be any worse....management seemed to do mostly what they wanted even though a union was in place and when they couldn't they totally f@cked their pilots over. Where was the benefit?
My point, if I were to have one, is that ALPA is a Major airline union and I am curious if you were to ask the pilots who lost their pensions a few years ago how they felt about their union, what kind of response you'd get.
I am neither pro nor anti-union. I honestly do not believe the current representation at the majority of regionals (Compass seems solid) is funcitonal (has teeth).
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