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MR JT8D 08-02-2014 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by Apokleros (Post 1697381)
There is none; nor will there ever be one. There are enough CFIs, pipeline patrol, survey, skydiving and part 135 pilots in the hiring pool right now to fill every single slot at the regionals. This shortage issue is only a "shortage" of pilot applicants who have never busted a checkride or gotten a DUI charge on their record. Beyond that, there are more than enough pilot applicants for the regionals to hire. Which is exactly why the pay has not risen in the slightest. Why should it when there are so many pilots still applying?


Excellent point. And well said.

Redbird611 08-02-2014 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by Kprc1 (Post 1697285)
I was just at the Aero Crew Solutions job fair at DFW last week. Many pilots were there for Spirit airlines. I think there were only 25 pilots who were there specifically for the Regionals. Here's a list of Regional companies who attended to try a get those mere 25 candidates.
Horizon
PSA
GoJet
SkyWest
Cape Air
Piedmont
Compass
Endeavor
Envoy
Trans States
Ameriflight
Allegiant
And a few more I can't remember.


Well, the regionals are hiring most who apply and soliciting some that haven't. There isn't much incentive to pay money to talk to their recruiters at present.

rbtower2 08-02-2014 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by LGARunway44 (Post 1697427)
I have been getting ALPA e-mails all week saying the issue was partly due to first year FO pay. I have yet to see any ALPA MEC negotiate and be successful with raising first year pay. I can't imagine any regional MEC has even tried to raise first year pay. ALPA simply does not care to raise the bar. Pay increase come in percentages and new hires best not spend their meager increases in one place. When you have a group like Endeavor willing to cap FO pay years before any of them can imagine an upgrade I don't think we need to rally congress to change things when we can't even fix the Bush League.

Here at CommutAir we signed a LOA in March that increased FO starting pay from $23 to $30 an hr. It has definitely helped with getting applicants into the door. The LOA also had a really good commuting clause so I'm sure that is helping as well

John2375 08-02-2014 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1697289)
I heard Skywest has been unable to fill classes.

Probably if they didn't have a ridiculously intense interview, they'd be able to hire more, and attract more candidates.

NVUS 08-02-2014 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1697289)
I heard Skywest has been unable to fill classes.

Here's the latest information I could find:

Pilot training continues to move along at near full capacity on the CRJ and ERJ programs. A CRJ class of 42 pilots completed ground school on July 24, and an ERJ class of 20 pilots completed ground school on that same day.

RJ Pilot 08-02-2014 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1697436)
Not true. Our union here at Envoy adopted "nobody can staff it!!" As their battle cry. There is NO WAY our MEC could have possibly made a mistake.

Oh, and good luck staffing all that new flying. I know all you other Regionals can't hire even if you think you can. How do I know? My MEC at Envoy told me so.

Your MEC lied and 79% of the pilots fell for it.

Good Luck.

Bzzt 08-02-2014 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1697612)
Your MEC lied and 79% of the pilots fell for it.

Good Luck.

I think people are starting to realize that, but it's too late. I can't stress enough how important it is to do your own research and not blindly follow others.

deltajuliet 08-02-2014 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky (Post 1697532)
Well, Republic can't staff at all. They gave out a $12,000 signing bonus for the last Q class and $7,000 for the last 170 class. Every month when looking at the seniority list, we are negative pilots and we are still accepting new airplanes. We are past the break even point between planes we have parked (145s) and new ones coming in (175s and Qs). So with still more than 20 planes coming online, we are definitely short staffed. I have had a couple of flights recently cancel for lack of crew and I know we are cancelling quite a few a week for that alone.

Crazy. I haven't been following Republic much, but are they buying their own planes or coming from a major? They talked about parking planes earlier this year, what's The-Hand-That-Feeds-Them going to do when it finds out they can't staff the planes they've been given?

deltajuliet 08-02-2014 10:13 AM

Take this with a grain of salt, but my answer to the original question would be:

PSA
Mesa
Compass
Horizon

According to people on the site, AWAC somehow does it too, but that seems strange.

bjohnson09 08-02-2014 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1697393)
Are guys getting hired with duis?

From talking to the recruiters and such, the DWIs aren't as much of an issue for them it's the criminal inadmissibility to Canada. So if you have that figured out you won't have an issue getting on with a regional.

Another note, one checkride failure isn't a deterrent right now either. I had a checkride failure on my initial 135 SIC ride with just 6 actual hours in the jet (examiner decided to make it a type ride basically). The guys said that's not an issue just be able to explain what happened. 2 or more raises eyebrows. And 3 or more is a no go.


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