Former FO, 3 OVI convictions...
08-17-2014 | 10:02 PM
#141
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For those who don't know....
Step 4: Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Step 10: Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
Drunks don't deserve a second chance. Those who are recovering do.
Those two steps apply to us all, addicts or not.
Step 4: Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Step 10: Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
Drunks don't deserve a second chance. Those who are recovering do.
Those two steps apply to us all, addicts or not.
08-18-2014 | 04:10 AM
#142
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The guy put it all out there. Whether its a troll post or not I tried to offer some encouragement based on personal friends who have pulled themselves back up again. Troll post or not it didn't hurt me nor do I feel stupid for trying to help someone put their life back together. The fact that some of you think those of us who didn't play holier than thou with the guy are idiots is a reflection on yourselves...not us. Really, what did it hurt? I can tell you it wasn't nearly the waste of time as most of the other threads going strong right now. God help you if you ever have anything you have to overcome, be careful cause you just never know.
08-18-2014 | 07:56 AM
#143
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From: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
The whole hypothetical multiple DUI scenario is also a function of state law. Here in Texas the third one is automatically a felony. I was seated on a jury in Fort Worth with the defendant accused of number three. Interestingly enough the officers could not place him driving the vehicle - only intoxicated, keys in hand, in the vicinity. Nonetheless, he pleaded before we deliberated and got a few years in jail. Checking "Felony Conviction" will certainly get the attention of a potential employer.
08-18-2014 | 08:02 AM
#144
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From: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Someone pointed out earlier - there's a definite "drinking culture" associated with this lifestyle. How does one define a "good crew" (i.e. "I had a great crew...")
It's typically not one that follows procedure to the letter, completes tasks with precision, points out errors, and backs each other up.
Rather, it's those that choose to participate in "fun" activities after blocking in. I'm not passing judgement either way, just pointing out a cultural norm.
It's typically not one that follows procedure to the letter, completes tasks with precision, points out errors, and backs each other up.
Rather, it's those that choose to participate in "fun" activities after blocking in. I'm not passing judgement either way, just pointing out a cultural norm.
08-18-2014 | 03:39 PM
#145
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Someone pointed out earlier - there's a definite "drinking culture" associated with this lifestyle. How does one define a "good crew" (i.e. "I had a great crew...")
It's typically not one that follows procedure to the letter, completes tasks with precision, points out errors, and backs each other up.
Rather, it's those that choose to participate in "fun" activities after blocking in. I'm not passing judgement either way, just pointing out a cultural norm.
It's typically not one that follows procedure to the letter, completes tasks with precision, points out errors, and backs each other up.
Rather, it's those that choose to participate in "fun" activities after blocking in. I'm not passing judgement either way, just pointing out a cultural norm.
08-18-2014 | 03:55 PM
#146
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From: Baggage compartment, C172
Also, if the OP hasn't done it already, it would be a very good idea to report these OVIs to the FAA. If it has been more than 60 days (which I'm guessing it has been) it will almost certainly result in a suspension of flying privileges.
08-18-2014 | 04:20 PM
#147
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If ones not currently flying and hasn't flown in years, would the how would the faa feel if you just spaced out reporting it?
08-18-2014 | 04:44 PM
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May be you can try to re-establish yourself as a reliable person, starting with a 135 pistons job. Prove you can walk the line.
Additionally you should try to have some talk time with some regionals in one of those career fairs.
3 mistakes like that, in a short period of time; It actually makes me think that they were related to a very hard moment in your life, especially if you were clean before, and you have been clean after.
The decisions you took were wrong, gladly nobody got hurt. I hope everything is behind and you will be stronger and smarter in the future. Good luck.
Additionally you should try to have some talk time with some regionals in one of those career fairs.
3 mistakes like that, in a short period of time; It actually makes me think that they were related to a very hard moment in your life, especially if you were clean before, and you have been clean after.
The decisions you took were wrong, gladly nobody got hurt. I hope everything is behind and you will be stronger and smarter in the future. Good luck.
08-19-2014 | 07:31 AM
#149
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But I would discuss that with an aviation lawyer before talking to the feds.
08-19-2014 | 10:08 AM
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From: Baggage compartment, C172
This happened to a friend of mine's dad. He hadn't flown in years and got a DUI sometime a long time ago. He was interested in beginning flying again and knew he had to report the occurrence at some point. He did the right thing and reported it, and pleaded his case. They still suspended his certificate for a few days. It didn't really affect him since he doesn't fly for a living, but it sounds like the feds aren't too understanding in this case.
