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JohnGardner 08-22-2014 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Dunkin (Post 1710128)
Ship sailed at PSA? Most junior captain in December 2015 hasn't been hired yet. PSA would still be just as good as Compass, especially if you live in the southeast and you get two interviews at AA (not a guarantee but better than nothing like Compass has).

Are you guys still thinking the 900's are growth aircraft? Serious question.

Bzzt 08-22-2014 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Dunkin (Post 1710128)
Ship sailed at PSA? Most junior captain in December 2015 hasn't been hired yet. PSA would still be just as good as Compass, especially if you live in the southeast and you get two interviews at AA (not a guarantee but better than nothing like Compass has).

Compass also has a guaranteed interview. Not at AA but at Delta, an infinitely better run airline than DUI Doug's donkey show.

Dunkin 08-22-2014 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1710155)
Are you guys still thinking the 900's are growth aircraft? Serious question.

First CRJ200 lease is up in 2019 and they have not parked any yet so you tell me. Why would they park the cheaper PSA 200s before the more expensive AWAC/SKW/XJT/ENV 50 seat aircraft? I don't think you know as much as you think but keep flaming.

SmitteyB 08-22-2014 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Dunkin (Post 1710168)
First CRJ200 lease is up in 2019 and they have not parked any yet so you tell me. Why would they park the cheaper PSA 200s before the more expensive AWAC/SKW/XJT/ENV 50 seat aircraft? I don't think you know as much as you think but keep flaming.

You are living in a fantasy world if you truly believe that.

I have never seen you here before but you post is dripping with newbie.

pagey 08-22-2014 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1710155)
Are you guys still thinking the 900's are growth aircraft? Serious question.


So they spent all that money to about double our pilot group, hire additional dispatchers, schedulers, MX etc.

They also upgraded our training center. Purchased 3 sims and quadrupled the size of the training dept for what? To furlough everyone in a year when they decide to park our 200s?

Why would they do this? Just to tell the pilots....HA! We fooled you! You'll still be the same size.....FOREVER!.

Serious question.

Cmon.

MrMustache 08-22-2014 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 1709555)
Just don't PSA your situation and you will be fine. Do whatever your mind is telling you.

Also, as for upgrade at your time, upgrade will be more like 3-4 years depending on the regional. Most minimums are 3000-4000 hours. At 600 hours per year average with EVERYONE else in the company trying to do the same, it might take longer than you think. Also, they won't lower the minimums because there are plenty of 5k hour FOs out there willing to jump ship if DECs happen.

Compass upgrade mins are 2500 TT and 1000 Multi or 2000 TT and 1500 Multi...

RJ Pilot 08-22-2014 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1710178)
So they spent all that money to about double our pilot group, hire additional dispatchers, schedulers, MX etc.

They also upgraded our training center. Purchased 3 sims and quadrupled the size of the training dept for what? To furlough everyone in a year when they decide to park our 200s?

Why would they do this? Just to tell the pilots....HA! We fooled you! You'll still be the same size.....FOREVER!.

Serious question.

Cmon.


This can't be right. Alpa MEC was telling envoy that there was NO way you guys could staff all that flying.

They Lied.

AdiosMikeFox 08-22-2014 07:43 AM

ALPA? Or just the crew room rumor mill?

RJ Pilot 08-22-2014 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 1710198)
ALPA? Or just the crew room rumor mill?

envoy Alpa MEC was preaching it. But no worries, the majority of them are flowing or flowed to AA already leaving the rest of envoy pilots with this poo-poo platter.

PilotJ3 08-22-2014 09:41 AM



Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1710155)
Are you guys still thinking the 900's are growth aircraft? Serious question.

First CRJ200 lease is up in 2019 and they have not parked any yet so you tell me. Why would they park the cheaper PSA 200s before the more expensive AWAC/SKW/XJT/ENV 50 seat aircraft? I don't think you know as much as you think but keep flaming.
You do realize that ENV 50seaters are cheaper that the 200? Why? Because they cut their lease price in BK.


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