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01-05-2007 | 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by skywalkerta

First it was only turboprops. Then it was 50 seats or less. Now its 70 seats. As the industry evolve even more, next year you guys will be saying ok 90 seats or less. I think ALL AIRPLANES should be flown by mainline. Where you start is where you end up. Wouldn't that be nice.

Couldn't agree more. Here's to hoping the tides turns back toward that. I think it may unrealistic however. It'll be a lot harder to reduce scope than it was to increase it.

01-05-2007 | 11:09 AM

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Correct me if I am wrong, but was this not an arguement when the 70 seat clause came out. The "cry" was for no more than 50. Now we are crying for no more than 76 seats. Let me predict the future. We will complain about 90seats. When we do, we will say that it should be limited to 76 seats.

Personally, I think it should be 50 seats, across the board.

Here's my complaint, all Turbojet aircraft should be operated by mainline carriers, and Turbo-props should be limited to 70 seats.

I know, to late, just a dream.

01-05-2007 | 11:19 AM

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The problem is at the top of the union. A few senior old SOB widebody captains will happily go along with management and throw the 737's and 320's under the bus in order to secure a few more dollars/hour for their golden years. They don't care about the long term, they just want to cash in while they can. It's up to the junior mainline folks to stop this sh*t.

01-05-2007 | 11:25 AM

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The trend may be irreversible. Before long we'll be looking at 737s. Eventually all flying will be done by the "regionals". Transoceanic too. Mainline will be reduced to holding companies with no airplanes and no pilots on their staff; instead they will just award contracts to the lowest bidder.

01-05-2007 | 11:31 AM

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If that happens better start negotiating some decent contracts.

01-05-2007 | 12:16 PM

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True. The big majors would absolutely love to do this, and they have been exploring the concept. They would then be able to whipsaw widebody and narrow-body contractors in addition to regional contractors.

Scope is the ONLY thing preventing this...eventually some BK airline with a really senior pilot group is going to make a deal to phase out scope as the existing pilots retire (ie no new hires, ever). This airline will then contract out all their flying ($19/hr for 747 FO's), realize massive cost advantages, and force all of their competitors into the same model.

This is why we need to eliminate longevity pay scales and set national pay standards in the near future...

01-05-2007 | 12:52 PM

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So what regional do they go to? ASA?

skywest I hope

01-05-2007 | 09:43 PM

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what about the E190, atleast that is staying mainline at US Airways. It's 99 seats. I believe 88 coach and 11 first class. I believe it was once called the 737 on a diet.