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Old 09-16-2014 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
You realize we're talking about Reader's Digest? Was it the large-font version and was it sitting on a table at Perkins at 5pm next to a Sanka and a hanky?
Best post of the thread. Oughtta close 'er down with that one!
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Old 09-16-2014 | 08:38 PM
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I'll be the regional pilot who says that regional airlines are not as safe. We fly more legs on less rest than our counterparts. It's impossible for that to not impact safety.


Furthermore.... This ties in with compensation. Management will go to their grave claiming that there's "one level of safety," and that they'd never compromise on safety in order to save money. Oh, really? So either I'm just as safe and qualified as a mainline pilot and should therefore be compensated as such, or I'm less safe and less qualified which is why I get paid less. You can't have it both ways. As regional pilots, we should be beating the safety drum non-stop for eternity. Stop being offended for a minute, and think. What would happen if we could convince the general public that contracted carriers had significantly lower safety margins than mainline carriers?
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Old 09-16-2014 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pete2800
I'll be the regional pilot who says that regional airlines are not as safe. We fly more legs on less rest than our counterparts. It's impossible for that to not impact safety.


Furthermore.... This ties in with compensation. Management will go to their grave claiming that there's "one level of safety," and that they'd never compromise on safety in order to save money. Oh, really? So either I'm just as safe and qualified as a mainline pilot and should therefore be compensated as such, or I'm less safe and less qualified which is why I get paid less. You can't have it both ways. As regional pilots, we should be beating the safety drum non-stop for eternity. Stop being offended for a minute, and think. What would happen if we could convince the general public that contracted carriers had significantly lower safety margins than mainline carriers?

DING! DING! DING!

ALPA should have blasted the public with the idea that regional pilots are not as experienced and are flown exhausted. But they didn't. I used to wonder why, but then the answer has become crustal clear--they have been selling us out.
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Old 09-17-2014 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Who flys 8 legs a day?
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Old 09-17-2014 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
My comparison was from 2000-Present. If the two posters above are going to bring up major airline crashes from the 90s, then present the regional ones as well over that same timeframe.
The regionals were operated under part 135 then. In fact, the RDU crash in 94 (IIRC) was the final straw that prompted PRIA.
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Old 09-17-2014 | 07:38 AM
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I remember when regional airlines changed from 135 to 121 in order to bring all the airlines under one standard of safety. Imagine my surprise when I learned that after the Colgan crash, something needed to be done to bring all the airlines under one stadard of safety.
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Old 09-17-2014 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I remember when regional airlines changed from 135 to 121 in order to bring all the airlines under one standard of safety. Imagine my surprise when I learned that after the Colgan crash, something needed to be done to bring all the airlines under one stadard of safety.
Well played...
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