Pilot Shortage
09-23-2014 | 06:25 AM
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Um, so isn't that a pilot shortage? I think you are just using semantics... if there are not enough pilots because nobody is willing to work for the current pay, well then I would say that is a pilot shortage. The pay shortage is the root cause, but nevertheless there is a pilot shortage.
09-23-2014 | 06:53 AM
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Um, so isn't that a pilot shortage? I think you are just using semantics... if there are not enough pilots because nobody is willing to work for the current pay, well then I would say that is a pilot shortage. The pay shortage is the root cause, but nevertheless there is a pilot shortage.
There's a shortage of pilots WILLING to work for poor pay. Period.
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09-23-2014 | 07:14 AM
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09-23-2014 | 07:51 AM
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It isn't about the money, exactly. Its about the job as it is today, after more than 15 years my job is worse than when I started, granted I net more, but the QOL is far, and I mean far worse than in 2000. I take home high 5, low 6 figures and wouldn't do it over again for 2x the money. Its the QOL that makes one realize that after 70K, it doesn't matter how much more you make. So I will disagree, no matter how much beyond 70K you make the reality of 11-13 days off makes it all, including the original 70K, just not worth it. Add some commuting and living on a crashpad floor or cheap hotel room, and that job at Homer Dipot looks pretty good.
And commuting to Newark to sit reserve for UAL doesn't make the grade either.
09-23-2014 | 10:31 AM
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Um, so isn't that a pilot shortage? I think you are just using semantics... if there are not enough pilots because nobody is willing to work for the current pay, well then I would say that is a pilot shortage. The pay shortage is the root cause, but nevertheless there is a pilot shortage.
Some of you are so emotionally invested in this idiocy that basic definitions are bent to suit your whims.
There IS a shortage of qualified pilots willing to work for the crap pay that is currently being offered.
Relax, it ain't exactly a zero sum proposition so far as defining reality is concerned; and it certainly changes NOTHING in terms of what we don't make either or both.
09-23-2014 | 10:46 AM
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I think in 3-5 years' time, there will be a genuine shortage by anyone's definition. The Big 3 will be alright, but regionals will especially suffer with only their lifers sticking around. A little further down the road, LCC's and smaller carriers will have problems. JetBlue, Allegiant, etc. Then, maybe, a decade from now, the majors might have small staffing problems. I think at worst they'll just decrease frequency to smaller cities. The public will definitely notice though, particularly anywhere covered by Essential Air Service or by a regional jet.
I think in 3-5 years' time, there will be a genuine shortage by anyone's definition. The Big 3 will be alright, but regionals will especially suffer with only their lifers sticking around. A little further down the road, LCC's and smaller carriers will have problems. JetBlue, Allegiant, etc. Then, maybe, a decade from now, the majors might have small staffing problems. I think at worst they'll just decrease frequency to smaller cities. The public will definitely notice though, particularly anywhere covered by Essential Air Service or by a regional jet.
09-23-2014 | 11:55 AM
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