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Cujo665 09-21-2014 01:29 PM

Pilot Shortage
 
Posted this in an airline specific thread, but it probably deserves it's own for full discussion.

RAA Pilot Shortage 2012
http://www.raa.org/Portals/0/Pubs/RH...024%202012.pdf

RAA Pilot Shortage 2013
http://www.raa.org/LinkClick.aspx?fi...id=176&mid=647
(great charts)

RAA Pilot Shortage 2014
http://www.raa.org/Portals/0/2014%20...ay3_2014_2.pdf


Bedford reported they had to interview 1,000 elligible candidates to find 90 that were hirable. Where do you think the other 910 went to work? That was in 2012-2013. It's becoming harder now.


Here's Garton talking about it from 2012 (noteworthy stuff at 5:20, 7:50 & 10:16)
RAA Chairman Dan Garton addresses attendees of the 37th Annual Convention - YouTube


Here's Bedford talking about it from mid 2014 (noteworthy 1:15, 1:35, 3:25 is Huge, 5:10 big also, 8:35 FAA & FO Quals, 11:25 Bridge Programs, 15: GAO, 23:23 would have been better to not alienate labor, 24:50 PILOT SALARY)
RAA 2014 Bedford - YouTube


Opinion rant follows:
Filling classes is meaninless. It's graduating certificated part 121 pilots to sit in the seats and retaining them that counts. The attition rates are obvious. Creating fear in our junior pilots to get them to run from RAH, XJT or ENY is just their way of trying to recycle the pool of available pilots. Fear is their greatest weapon. An informed pilot group is THEIR greatest fear.


and they're taking their message to the hill....
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: RAA asks Congress & FAA to return emphasis on quality versus quantity hours; details small community air service threat > Regional Airline Association > RAA Headlines


so should we.

Beech90 09-21-2014 01:46 PM

If RAH truly wanted to fill seats, they wouldn't turn away 9/10 candidates.

LAXSAAB 09-21-2014 02:01 PM

This is RAA propaganda! From what I hear BB is pushing for a repeal of the ATP requirement, so he can continue to bend pilots over

bababouey 09-21-2014 02:08 PM

I'm new to the industry, what does he mean when he said they tried to increase FO pay and the pilots said no?

Cujo665 09-21-2014 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 1731634)
I'm new to the industry, what does he mean when he said they tried to increase FO pay and the pilots said no?


He means they tried to offer them a contract with raises that brought them to the top third of the regional industry; but did not fix any of the other massive deficiancies in the contract that expired in 2007. They have been without a contract since then, and management offered NOTHING for the seven years without a contract.

Cujo665 09-21-2014 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by LAXSAAB (Post 1731629)
This is RAA propaganda! From what I hear BB is pushing for a repeal of the ATP requirement, so he can continue to bend pilots over

You should probably read and view it all before making comments like that. Just about everything there support our claim that there is a shortage that is caused by poor wages and working conditions. Their solution is the last link that you're complaining about.

sevenforseven 09-21-2014 03:09 PM

Cujo from EGL?

galaxy flyer 09-21-2014 03:21 PM

Globe trekker,

Pay is going up rapidly in 91 ops in the bigger cities. Jobs open, offers consist of, "give me a number, please."

GF

FlyingKat 09-21-2014 04:08 PM

Breaks my heart to see the Rev and Ornstein go to Congress to cry about a situation they created with their horrible contracts that lined their pockets with millions. *sniff*


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