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Old 09-28-2014 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Brand X
I think MPL would be a viable option for US regionals. I think universities like Riddle should develop a MPL program to be used in conjunction with a EtD type program. They could call it Riddle to Delta, or RtD. The candidate would get a 4 yr. degree and a ERJ-170 type rating. They would have to go through a real Delta interview before being accepted into the program and upon graduation, they would go fly at a partnered regional for a few years for some seasoning and then go directly to Delta with no further screening required.

This would alleviate the regional pilot shortage while giving the majors a steady supply of pre-screened candidates with the proper type of experience.

Now, before you write and tell me how expensive the above would be, and it would be expensive, they could institute a means test for funding. Meaning that if the candidate and/or the candidate's parents have enough money themselves, then they would have to self-fund 100% of the program, sliding down a scale to 100% funded by the government and/or the airline themselves.




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They could just stop cutting pay and benefits at the regionals, and actually pay professional pilots a professional wage. No MPL, or "government and/or the airlines themselves" would have to fund any part of the program. The career could actually be made to be desirable enough to attract new entrants by improving working conditions and pay enough to make the large investment of time and money worthwhile!
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Old 09-28-2014 | 10:46 PM
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Or "100% funded by the government" You do realize that the government, in that scenario, would be you, the taxpayer! The only pilots I want trained at my expense are the ones protecting/defending me or the others now as civilians using the GI bill, that have earned that right by also putting their butts on the line defending me. Taxpayers training regional pilots, no thanks!
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Old 09-29-2014 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brand X
I think MPL would be a viable option for US regionals. I think universities like Riddle should develop a MPL program to be used in conjunction with a EtD type program. They could call it Riddle to Delta, or RtD. The candidate would get a 4 yr. degree and a ERJ-170 type rating. They would have to go through a real Delta interview before being accepted into the program and upon graduation, they would go fly at a partnered regional for a few years for some seasoning and then go directly to Delta with no further screening required.

This would alleviate the regional pilot shortage while giving the majors a steady supply of pre-screened candidates with the proper type of experience.

Now, before you write and tell me how expensive the above would be, and it would be expensive, they could institute a means test for funding. Meaning that if the candidate and/or the candidate's parents have enough money themselves, then they would have to self-fund 100% of the program, sliding down a scale to 100% funded by the government and/or the airline themselves.
BEFORE 1500 rule: CPL + type rating = 250 hour pilot with type rating
MPL: MPL = 50 hour co-pilot with type rating who can't even fly a Cessna as a single pilot for private priveleges without additional training

MPL is not a panacea for lack of experience.
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Old 09-29-2014 | 04:13 AM
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Are we up to 10 pages yet so this train wreck can be closed?
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Old 09-29-2014 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
OR,

They could just stop cutting pay and benefits at the regionals, and actually pay professional pilots a professional wage.
But that's the whole point of the regional, to cut pay and benefits! "They" like things just the way they are, although they're not happy that ANY regional pilot makes more than $50K.
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Old 09-29-2014 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
But that's the whole point of the regional, to cut pay and benefits! "They" like things just the way they are, although they're not happy that ANY regional pilot makes more than $50K.
^^^^^ The REALITY of it all.

It's amazing though how this "era" is different than the pre 9/11 one. Meaning, then regional contracts were increasing in quality (relatively) along with the mainline contracts. ASA, ACA, COMAIR, and AWAC all saw increases in their CBA's while the legacy carriers were as well. And had there not been 9/11, Pinnacle, Mesaba, RAH, EVEN Mesa would have seen gains compared to what they were currently under when the process was all said and done. And in that economy, the airlines were making money just like now.

However, this "era", the legacy carriers want to get their feed even cheaper than it is NOW, meanwhile they're making record profits.
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Old 09-29-2014 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
OR,

They could just stop cutting pay and benefits at the regionals, and actually pay professional pilots a professional wage.
How many internet posts do you estimate it would take to do this?
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