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Old 10-05-2014, 06:39 AM
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All accurate except for this. Non-wholly owned nonrevs have priority above all others on their own metal, including D1s. However, the reservation system isn't capable of sorting the standby list this way, so it is the gate agents responsibility to figure this out.
Actually, that is not correct and this is straight from the TRIP book and the N*RSA-NRTP which governs the nonrev travel and reservation systems. All flights regardless of who operates them are considered "American Airlines Network" flights. All non-wholly owned regional carriers are considered "American Regional Affiliate Employees" (formerly called AMR regional Affiliates).

American Regional Affiliate Employees will be accommodated on the American Network at priority AAC

All travelers (regardless of employing airline) will be accommodated in the order in which they appear on the flight priority list. Agents must not accommodate out of that order.

Travel is valid in the Economy cabin only. Upgrades to Business or First class are not permitted.
AAC boarding priority is after D3 (buddy passes) but before ONEworld non-revs or ZED tickets.

While a gate agent may have incorrectly boarding someone out of order, this manual directly says that is incorrect and that agent could get disciplined for it.

This rules now apply to the LUS system where PREVIOUSLY it was as you described, there was some priority based on whose metal it was. Now it is the LAA system.

Hope that clears it up some.
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I've been at a USAir wholly-owned for a year and I'm very satisfied with the flight benefits. I travel a lot internationally with my other half and have always been able to get a seat. With the new time of check-in system at AA, I will greatly benefit. I can use a travel pass and move ahead of everyone else on the stand-by list by checking in within seconds of the 24-hours mark. I guarantee I'm lot quicker with key strokes than some old mainline FA or pilot. I've bumped non wholly owned pilots off the jumpseat of a USair flights several times based on my priority level and it has made a big difference when commuting on USair flights.
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Actually, that is not correct and this is straight from the TRIP book and the N*RSA-NRTP which governs the nonrev travel and reservation systems. All flights regardless of who operates them are considered "American Airlines Network" flights. All non-wholly owned regional carriers are considered "American Regional Affiliate Employees" (formerly called AMR regional Affiliates).
Interesting. The US Employee Travel Guide, updated 9/10/14 (includes checkin time boarding procedures, new priority codes, etc) says otherwise (section 02-02.). We LUS folks don't have access to the TRIP book and are told to refer to the ETG. I guess they still have some kinks to work out.
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Interesting. The US Employee Travel Guide, updated 9/10/14 (includes checkin time boarding procedures, new priority codes, etc) says otherwise (section 02-02.). We LUS folks don't have access to the TRIP book and are told to refer to the ETG. I guess they still have some kinks to work out.
I think that's it right there - for the most part each legacy carrier is still operating under their own procedures. Some things have been mixed, like time of check in, fees, etc but some things remain and I seem to recall looking at a table where LUS gave priority to non-wholly-owned non-rev travelers on their own metal but LAA does not.

And tbh, I do not know/remember how it will be when the travel procedures are fully combined.
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Interesting. The US Employee Travel Guide, updated 9/10/14 (includes checkin time boarding procedures, new priority codes, etc) says otherwise (section 02-02.). We LUS folks don't have access to the TRIP book and are told to refer to the ETG. I guess they still have some kinks to work out.
There are still a few kinks to work out until the merger is complete and we get a single operating certificate, but yes the LUS way is a thing of the past and as LUS and PDT gate agents are receiving training on the new systems, they will be taught the new non-rev policy which puts mainline and wholly owned at the top of the non rev list on ALL AA/US flights operating under the AA/US system. Additionally, new JS priority also states on AA metal JS priority is LAA/LUS then Envoy then PSA/PDT then all other airlines and on US metal priority is LUS/LAA then PSA/PDT then Envoy then all other airlines and obviously each carrier has JS priority on their own metal.
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I've been at a USAir wholly-owned for a year and I'm very satisfied with the flight benefits. I travel a lot internationally with my other half and have always been able to get a seat. With the new time of check-in system at AA, I will greatly benefit. I can use a travel pass and move ahead of everyone else on the stand-by list by checking in within seconds of the 24-hours mark. I guarantee I'm lot quicker with key strokes than some old mainline FA or pilot. I've bumped non wholly owned pilots off the jumpseat of a USair flights several times based on my priority level and it has made a big difference when commuting on USair flights.
No way you're beating ehalo auto check-in, I guarantee it, no matter how fast you are
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No way you're beating ehalo auto check-in, I guarantee it, no matter how fast you are
People using ehalo auto check in have been getting caught and losing their travel benefits so I wouldn't recommend that...
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There are still a few kinks to work out until the merger is complete and we get a single operating certificate, but yes the LUS way is a thing of the past and as LUS and PDT gate agents are receiving training on the new systems, they will be taught the new non-rev policy which puts mainline and wholly owned at the top of the non rev list on ALL AA/US flights operating under the AA/US system. Additionally, new JS priority also states on AA metal JS priority is LAA/LUS then Envoy then PSA/PDT then all other airlines and on US metal priority is LUS/LAA then PSA/PDT then Envoy then all other airlines and obviously each carrier has JS priority on their own metal.
thats weird they make that distinction between the wo's on js priority, also i thought js was first come first served unless it was your own metal then you could bump 'offline' out of js
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People using ehalo auto check in have been getting caught and losing their travel benefits so I wouldn't recommend that...
Is that in writing somewhere?
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Is that in writing somewhere?
It is specifically stated in the TRIP book that using third party applications for check in is against the rules and will result in getting your travel privileges permanently revoked.

Play by the rules just like everyone else.
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