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Originally Posted by DOGIII
(Post 1751648)
Wont the new Mac operate Yosemite or something...? Wouldn't that mess up my functionality or sync or something?
Any help is appreciated brother Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
LogTen Annual fee $69.99/yr
Just received an email from Coradine. They still haven't changed their pricing and insist "pilots love LTP X." They found 2 positive reviews. Here's the body of the email:
Pilots Love LogTen Pro X Thanks to everyone who has downloaded LogTen Pro X and helped to make this our best launch weekend ever! Nearly nine thousand pilots are already onboard. Download your copy now for free so you can try the new features for yourself. Here's what a few of them had to say: "Been using Log Ten Pro for years and the last version is superb! Not so long ago i wrote the support team about the idea of let mobile devices recognize the place, which is really important when it comes to helicopter pilots: we don't spend our entire life between airports! & and with the last version, here it is: "fly now" option!! amazing! LogTen Pro X is "the jam" !!! Thank you, Coradine!!" AS365 Pilot "I've been using this electronic logbook for four years. It has an easy interface, cloud syncing across devices, and they continue to improve it. It is so much more than a paper logbook - I keep photos, notes, track fuel use, expenses, everything. I can customize my interface completely - when I'm instructing a lot it is set for that, if I'm doing charter it supports easy entry there. It looks good, I can print most any report I want, and I can see in an instant my currency and totals. I never get behind on logging my time because I can enter my time in seconds on my iphone and the customer support is great." App Store Review "First off I would like to thank you for a great product. Just got the new one [LogTen Pro X] and it looks great and was very simple to get my data over to the new program. Also thanks for offering the discount on the subscription for the 1st two weeks." Customer comment at help.coradine.com Yes, LogTen Pro X for iOS is a subscription. And yes, LogTen Pro X for Mac is free. We aim to be as transparent as possible at Coradine, we take your comments seriously and act with three objectives always in mind based on our mission to help pilots. Our objectives are: to provide you with the best logbook on the market, coupled with the best service you've ever had, for a fair price that enables us to continue doing so for many, many years to come. Our CEO (Noah), recently wrote a (long and detailed) posting on how a subscription makes all the above possible. Here's an excerpt: "I am super excited about our new LogTen Pro X platform and subscription model! Giving you access to LogTen Pro X on all your devices, a regular subscription has huge advantages in this new world of constant updates. Subscriptions mean you will always have the latest version with regular feature updates as soon as they are honed to perfection. Upgrade your device and OS with confidence and security, knowing we will keep you in the loop with upcoming features and compatibility." And... "A subscription gives us much more flexibility, and using this flexibility, we have decided to make sure that all pilots with LogTen Pro always have access to their historic data. So even if you have to take some time away from flying and let your subscription lapse, you will still get all the updates to LogTen Pro X and can continue to use your logbook and all of LogTen Pro X's great features to view, search, edit, generate reports etc.! A subscription is only required to continue adding new flights beyond the first 40 hours." To read the full article, click here. Finally, to make sure there is no confusion about pricing... LogTen Pro X for Mac is free. Download it here right now and use it, no cost, no subscription, no restrictions, the best logbook on the market, on your desktop at no charge. LogTen Pro X for iOS is free for the first 40 hours of flight time logged and then you will be prompted to purchase a subscription. Until Oct 31, 2014 annual subscriptions for LogTen Pro X for iOS are discounted by 50% at $34.99US for the first year. After October 31, the annual subscription goes up to $69.99US/year, or choose monthly for $6.99US. Download it here, test it out fully and try before you buy. And remember ... your data is always yours. If you let your subscription lapse and have over 40 hours of flight time logged, the only two functions that are disabled is the ability to add new flights and sync. You can analyze your historic data, export reports, track certificates and everything else you love LogTen Pro for... And of course, if you have any comments, questions or suggestions, you can always contact our fantastic support team at help.coradine.com! Thanks for reading, Team Coradine ...needless to say, I unsubscribed. I'm done with this stubborn, greedy company. |
69.99 x 9000 = 629,910 a year.
Should have been a Software Engineer. The big questions are since they have you signed up and doling out your money what is the impetus to do any updates or improvements to the product? Anyone? Anyone? Crickets. The other little issue is: "a single auto-renewing subscription (either monthly or annually)" What's to say that Noah doesn't "automatically" increase your monthly or annual subscription rate whenever he pleases to get that new house by the lake, with the fancy boat, floatplane and the flash car? I would like to see the fine print on that deal, on the "Agreement". How hard is it to cancel the auto-renewing subscription? Honestly though, since I am not going to continue with the Coradine Extortion Plan I really don't care. I was happy with Logten 6.5.1 and after they finally got the bugs out (for the most part - had some major issues at one point in time). The iCloud Sync was working pretty well. Now that Logten 6.5.1 doesn't work as when it was sold, as far as I am concerned some of the smart lawyer types should get a Class Action Lawsuit together since the product we purchased (at greater than normal market price) no longer functions as marketed. A reputable company would have patched this gratis, then they could have gone on and marketed their latest and greatest. I have paid close to $425.00 for all this over a 4-5 year period. That is just too much for too little and way too many broken promises. All this for a product that has only one purpose. I paid substantially less for Microsoft Office, and get a lot more utilization. Sue Him! |
I also heard some rumors that the numbers are misleading about “pilots” vs. “device installs”.
Also I've been told by some developers that the update to iCloud is a simple one on the programming end. I don't see why the app couldn't have just been tweaked versus creating a new one and charging for again... |
mccLogbook looks promising!
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Originally Posted by 727_Driver
(Post 1752266)
I also heard some rumors that the numbers are misleading about “pilots” vs. “device installs”.
Also I've been told by some developers that the update to iCloud is a simple one on the programming end. I don't see why the app couldn't have just been tweaked versus creating a new one and charging for again... If the price stayed at 35 it would be understandable! |
Originally Posted by Good Rate
(Post 1752330)
mccLogbook looks promising!
for a one time fee. and the nice thing is id adds future flights so when I fly them, just add the block times, maybe actual time and tail # if it changed and bam, all done. sync and boom |
LogTen Annual fee $69.99/yr
20-Oct-2014
Transition from Log Ten Pro After Coradine has changed its payment plan, our Helpdesk is swamped by pilots using Log Ten Pro before. The following questions often come back : 1. When is the Mac OS application released ? mccPILOTLOG currently runs as Windows program. We are developing a new application that runs cross-platform on Mac, Windows and even on Linux, the latter is not targetted / supported. The new software will soon be released as BETA for ALL pilots. 2. Will I be charged twice when switching from (virtual) Windows to the Mac application ? No, your license key for Windows PC remains valid for Mac OS, there are no extra charges ! The license key can be used on 9 devices simultaneously (this technical limit will even be lifted with the next Version). 3. Will you change your payment plan towards a subscription model, like Coradine ? mccPILOTLOG charges a one-time payment for life-time use of the software. There are no extra charges for any software updates and for Helpdesk support 24/7. A team of 16 coders is working full-time on mccPILOTLOG, mccROSTER, mccPILOTCAL and other apps. It takes a simple calculation to understand the difficult balance between monthly returning costs versus one-time earnings... We may eventually move towards a similar subscription model. However, contrary to Coradine, we commit to never charge existing loyal users. Should we change to a new payment plan, it would apply to new users only. 4. Can I import my records from Log Ten Pro ? mccPILOTLOG imports data from 35 other electronic logbooks, including Log Ten Pro. Do the following steps : - File (or) Reports - Export (Exporters) - Export Flights (Tab) - Generate Report (choose 3 times ALL) - ZIP the FLIGHTS.TXT file Email the ZIP file to our Helpdesk for modification and review. The average delay is 3 to 5 business days, this may take a bit longer as we are swamped with requests from Log Ten Pro users. There is no need to purchase any of the paid editions in order to import your records. You can import the converted file and log new records with the FREE standard edition of mccPILOTLOG. There is no limit of "40 hours" and there is no trial period ! In fact, we strongly advise to first install and test-run the free software in order to make sure the application runs fine on your desktop. |
so let me get this straight, the computer form is free, but the IOS(Iphone) app is 69.99 a year?
Why is everyone b*tching about the IOS version? Your logbook still works, the fact you can still print it for free is all you need. |
LogTen Annual fee $69.99/yr
Astec, the laptop/desktop version is only "free" if you log less than 40 hours. You won't be able to log more than 40 hours without subscribing. So, unless you've retired, the b****ing is valid.
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