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tom14cat14 11-13-2014 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond (Post 1763354)
Do what works best for you and your family. That is what matters. If that means you need to make a lateral move, then do so.

This is exactly why it is the same as a pilot voting in concessions to save their job. Those Pilots are making a decisions purely based on how it will affect them not the industry. And a lot of people say it is ok because it has become pretty normal to chase the planes. This is why mainline management knows that all they have to do is shift flying to a new carrier and they get what they want. Just think if all of us didn’t chase the planes. They would lose power to keep shoving the contracts down our throat. They know they can throw the planes somewhere cheap and pilots will follow.

ClickClickBoom 11-13-2014 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 1763060)
Bingo. I'm tired of people telling me what I should do/have done with my career.

I think going to PSA is a scummy move, but those guys are going to have a job at United/Delta/AA before the FOs who sit at XJT/AE/9E. That's just the facts.

Almost right, everything you do gives an indication as to ones true character. So the guy who hops from job to job chasing that elusive upgrade, just might be looked at in a different light. 1000 PIC isn't very much time to get ones chops together, what a year and a half or two? Appearing to be running willynilly from job to job might not be the appearance one would like to be presenting. A career job is more than minimum checks in boxes on an application.

skypilot35 11-13-2014 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom (Post 1763453)
Almost right, everything you do gives an indication as to ones true character. So the guy who hops from job to job chasing that elusive upgrade, just might be looked at in a different light. 1000 PIC isn't very much time to get ones chops together, what a year and a half or two? Appearing to be running willynilly from job to job might not be the appearance one would like to be presenting. A career job is more than minimum checks in boxes on an application.

^^^^^what he said.
Additionally, one seniority list for the regionals.

sublime259 11-13-2014 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom (Post 1763453)
Almost right, everything you do gives an indication as to ones true character. So the guy who hops from job to job chasing that elusive upgrade, just might be looked at in a different light. 1000 PIC isn't very much time to get ones chops together, what a year and a half or two? Appearing to be running willynilly from job to job might not be the appearance one would like to be presenting. A career job is more than minimum checks in boxes on an application.

I'd be curious to know how many PSA and PDT guys have moved onto the majors in the past year. Any of them want to chime in? Selling out the entire industry looks kinda bad on the resume! 121 PIC time can't fix that.

Beech90 11-13-2014 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1763503)
I'd be curious to know how many PSA and PDT guys have moved onto the majors in the past year. Any of them want to chime in? Selling out the entire industry looks kinda bad on the resume! 121 PIC time can't fix that.

Do majors care about the regional games?....serious question.
I can't see the interviewing team caring, unless a former Eagle pilot or the alike is on there.

Beech90 11-13-2014 07:21 PM

Every time I jumpseating on mainline metal....Ahhh Ohhh what are you flying over there at XYZ?

RodJohnson 11-13-2014 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1763510)
Do majors care about the regional games?....serious question.
I can't see the interviewing team caring, unless a former Eagle pilot or the alike is on there.

No they don't... They care about what they are screening for on your interview date.. Might be 4 military, 5 corporate, 6 masters degrees... Etc.. They don't care.. It's about HR and tax breaks.

sublime259 11-13-2014 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1763510)
Do majors care about the regional games?....serious question.
I can't see the interviewing team caring, unless a former Eagle pilot or the alike is on there.

From talking around, they absolutely do care. The ones who aren't all that familiar are the guys who are either close to retirement or prior mil with no connection to the regional industry.

The bottom-feeder's undercutting is starting to affect them directly as well now. Take a look at the recent proposal to APA. Of course Parker and co. are going to look to outsource as much as possible. Their cheap regional feed just got that much more cheaper!

The laws of supply and demand say that more jobs should be returning to mainline in the near future. When you have companies such as PSA and PDT willing to work for less for their own short-term gain, those mainline jobs start to disappear (just as AAG is trying to do now.) Do you really think AA, UA, and DAL pilots are oblivious to this fact?

All I can say is that if you are at one of those bottom-feeders, you better have some damn good connections. Otherwise, enjoy your career at the regional level! (Just saying career at the regionals makes me cringe:eek:)

ArcherDvr 11-13-2014 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1763529)
When you have companies such as PSA and PDT willing to work for less for their own short-term gain, those mainline jobs start to disappear (just as AAG is trying to do now.) Do you really think AA, UA, and DAL pilots are oblivious to this fact?

All I can say is that if you are at one of those bottom-feeders, you better have some damn good connections. Otherwise, enjoy your career at the regional level! (Just saying career at the regionals makes me cringe:eek:)

Except that those guys at PSA and Piedmont have preferential interviews. As long as mainline keeps hiring guys from these companies, people will sign up to fly for them. And now, AAG has the salary caps to help control costs.

DENpilot 11-13-2014 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1763529)

All I can say is that if you are at one of those bottom-feeders, you better have some damn good connections. Otherwise, enjoy your career at the regional level! (Just saying career at the regionals makes me cringe:eek:)

Geez man, I wish you could hear yourself and how completely nonsensical you sound.

Please enlighten me, which regional IS NOT a bottom feeder?


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